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by mustangxc » Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:42 pm
I agree with everything Jones states in the interview. I just don't agree with his lack of effort in recruiting and mores his inability to hire an aggressive staff of recruiters that know the area well and have exceptional connections to give us a fighting chance in recruiting and as a result talent. Schedule TCU, New Mexico State, Idaho, and North Texas. We would win 3 of those games every year and pull an upset occasionally to be 4-0. Then win 6-8 games in the conference schedule and you have your 9-12 win season. I do not blame the AD for the non-conference schedule because when those games were scheduled TCU was non-aq, Baylor was terrible, Texas A&M was not at the level it is, and we were in an inferior league. I still think that we should be winning more than we have but realize that his approach of scheduling can also be effective.
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by tristatecoog » Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:15 pm
If you had a soft OOC schedule, fans would probably complain about having to pay for a weak slate of games. Fans want 1-2 name teams per year on the home schedule and you have to play them on the road to get them at home. However, having three of TT, TCU, Baylor and A&M in a given year is a big nut.
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by sbsmith » Sun Apr 20, 2014 4:21 pm
mustangxc wrote:Schedule TCU, New Mexico State, Idaho, and North Texas. We would win 3 of those games every year and pull an upset occasionally to be 4-0. Then win 6-8 games in the conference schedule and you have your 9-12 win season. I do not blame the AD for the non-conference schedule because when those games were scheduled TCU was non-aq, Baylor was terrible, Texas A&M was not at the level it is, and we were in an inferior league. I still think that we should be winning more than we have but realize that his approach of scheduling can also be effective.
What makes you think New Mexico State and Idaho want to play us and even if they did space isn't available on their schedules for a minimum of two seasons. If they're much better by then are you going to want to run from them too? Do you realize that if we fix recruiting we won't have to run away from legit competition?
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by 03Mustang » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:56 pm
I'd rather just go FCS than play a OOC schedule like that every year. If we want to be at the P5 level, let's up the effort throughout the program and get there...otherwise, let's just be honest with ourselves and drop it a level.
You can't make the argument that we are scheduling too tough and then say that we deserve to be at the top level - we either can handle playing with the big boys or we can't, and unfortunately there is no time to "work our way into it" at this point.
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by smupony94 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:05 pm
Take the buy games and rock in basketball
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by PonySnob » Sun Apr 20, 2014 9:42 pm
smupony94 wrote:Take the buy games and rock in basketball
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by mustangxc » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:29 pm
smupony94 wrote:Take the buy games and rock in basketball
If we are trying to play a legit schedule and make money we might as well play TCU and 2-3 other away games against power programs like Michigan, Tennessee, etc. and just collect checks. That is the model Rice has followed for a long time.
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by 03Mustang » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:56 am
mustangxc wrote:smupony94 wrote:Take the buy games and rock in basketball
If we are trying to play a legit schedule and make money we might as well play TCU and 2-3 other away games against power programs like Michigan, Tennessee, etc. and just collect checks. That is the model Rice has followed for a long time.
And much more effectively than we have. How many ten win seasons and/or conference championships do they have? Must be their weak academics, strong fan support, and top notch facilities.
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by smitty329 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:00 pm
We should be breaking ground soon on the Garret Gilbert IPF, once he signs the big NFL contract June feels he is worth. Maybe we can hit up Emanuel for some bigger meeting rooms. Morstead could get some projectors or comfy chairs.
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by WordUpBU » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:51 am
sbsmith wrote:What makes you think New Mexico State and Idaho want to play us and even if they did space isn't available on their schedules for a minimum of two seasons.
Idaho is pretty desperate for money and scheduling help with the WAC imploding. You could probably get them to crawl over glass for the same amount of money as it took to buy out BU and pay Montana State to come to Dallas.
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by Bergermeister » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:38 am
mrydel wrote:I am going to make a remark here and it is not an endorsement of Jones. I have made my opinions known in that regard many times. But I interpreted the article differently than most others have. I do not hear him asking for any of those facilities. I just hear him saying we do not have the huge dollars that the big boys have to build the palaces that they build. We have posts with pictures on this site of some of the big guys who have recently remodeled and there is no way we could compete with that. When you get $15,000,000 for a bowl game and $16,000,000 from conference proceeds like the SEC, then you can do much more from a facility standpoint. I just cannot disagree with the opinion he gives on the facilities.
You're not going to be winning "Most Popular Senior Boy" with posts like this.
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by Rebel10 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:34 pm
He has said in the past the he just needs to get the recruits on campus and they have a real good chance to land them. Now he is saying the the campus facilities aren't very good. And a few months ago he even publicly talked about how the SMU weight room was not very good. He might be right but you don't air those things publicly (where recruit and their parents can read them before even visiting) and then try to recruit kids and tell the that our facilities are good. You publicly accentuate the positives of the school and the things that you don't like are argued in private. Airing dirty laundry publicly never helps recruiting, in fact it hurts recruiting.
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by RyanSMU98 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:54 pm
Rebel10 wrote:He has said in the past the he just needs to get the recruits on campus and they have a real good chance to land them. Now he is saying the the campus facilities aren't very good. And a few months ago he even publicly talked about how the SMU weight room was not very good. He might be right but you don't air those things publicly (where recruit and their parents can read them before even visiting) and then try to recruit kids and tell the that our facilities are good. You publicly accentuate the positives of the school and the things that you don't like are argued in private. Airing dirty laundry publicly never helps recruiting, in fact it hurts recruiting.
Hmm, does this story line sound eerily familiar? http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Jan/08/ln/hawaii801080343.html
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by Big12Mustang » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:08 pm
RyanSMU98 wrote:Rebel10 wrote:He has said in the past the he just needs to get the recruits on campus and they have a real good chance to land them. Now he is saying the the campus facilities aren't very good. And a few months ago he even publicly talked about how the SMU weight room was not very good. He might be right but you don't air those things publicly (where recruit and their parents can read them before even visiting) and then try to recruit kids and tell the that our facilities are good. You publicly accentuate the positives of the school and the things that you don't like are argued in private. Airing dirty laundry publicly never helps recruiting, in fact it hurts recruiting.
Hmm, does this story line sound eerily familiar? http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Jan/08/ln/hawaii801080343.html
You are right, it does sound familiar. But it's a moot point...the money will never come, since there will be a new division in NCAA Football Division 1 and AAC got left behind. The money will never come especially being in a different division...which will make FBS look and feel like FCS to the P5.
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by Rebel10 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:37 pm
Big12Mustang wrote:RyanSMU98 wrote:Rebel10 wrote:He has said in the past the he just needs to get the recruits on campus and they have a real good chance to land them. Now he is saying the the campus facilities aren't very good. And a few months ago he even publicly talked about how the SMU weight room was not very good. He might be right but you don't air those things publicly (where recruit and their parents can read them before even visiting) and then try to recruit kids and tell the that our facilities are good. You publicly accentuate the positives of the school and the things that you don't like are argued in private. Airing dirty laundry publicly never helps recruiting, in fact it hurts recruiting.
Hmm, does this story line sound eerily familiar? http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Jan/08/ln/hawaii801080343.html
You are right, it does sound familiar. But it's a moot point...the money will never come, since there will be a new division in NCAA Football Division 1 and AAC got left behind. The money will never come especially being in a different division...which will make FBS look and feel like FCS to the P5.
Right, and if it is a moot point why air it publicly for recruits and their parents to read. No point in it except to develop an excuse.
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