This Board is Funny!

[shadowman]

Four years ago, when I called for June to be dismissed because of his cruddy offense and "I don't care" recruiting, I was burned as a troll. The majority of the board was happy going 7-5 and playing in the weedeater bowl, like it was progress, even though anyone with a winning record went to a bowl game. In conference USA, we beat some of the worst teams in the nation to get a tick above .500 and be bowl eligible.

That is not progress, June's offense was outdated 15 years ago, he has no interest in recruiting. The vast majority of SMU's roster has no business playing D-1. Poor, POOR Recruiting.

We could have saved ourselves all this 4 years ago by recognizing the signs that were so obvious. Too many though were happy with a 500 hundred record and going to the Toilet Bowl.

Now it will take at least 3-5 years to start over with the right hire.

This is all on the ones that supported June that got giddy we went to a cruddy bowl while in a cruddy conference and any cruddy team with a 500 team got a bowl bid. I called for us to be smarter and demand more, but no one was interested.

A 43-6 loss to UNT is what we get for our stupidity.

Lets enjoy being the worst D-1 in football, get the right coach, and maybe in 4 years we can come close to being relevant again.

/cheers

please dude - we have been saying this

umm, check my post history, I called for June's firing when we were going 7-5 and going to the weedeater bowl and everyone was so happy.

To those that said he delivered a bowl game...BULLCRAP....my dog could have delivered a bowl game....The times, not SMU, changed. We took advantage being able to play some of the worst teams in the nation and get above 500, where in this day of ESPN, you get to 500, you go to a bowl. that was not an option back just a few years before June.

All my post was trying to show is that, we suck, we have sucked since the death penalty, June taking us to the toilet bowl at 7-5 was not progress, most of you just felt it was. Rossely and Cavan did a much better job against much better competition.

June has been a fraud who stumbled in to a perfect storm where we played cruddy teams and every team that could limp to at least 500 made a bowl game. He DID NOTHING SPECIAL.. everyone needs to see this.. Any coach could have done what he did.

I called for him to be replaced when everyone was anointing him the savior. Now this is what we got.

/cheers

[SMUer]

You deserve a *slow clap* too.

[PlanoStang]

Four years ago, when I called for June to be dismissed because of his cruddy offense and "I don't care" recruiting, I was burned as a troll. The majority of the board was happy going 7-5 and playing in the weedeater bowl, like it was progress, even though anyone with a winning record went to a bowl game. In conference USA, we beat some of the worst teams in the nation to get a tick above .500 and be bowl eligible.

That is not progress, June's offense was outdated 15 years ago, he has no interest in recruiting. The vast majority of SMU's roster has no business playing D-1. Poor, POOR Recruiting.

We could have saved ourselves all this 4 years ago by recognizing the signs that were so obvious. Too many though were happy with a 500 hundred record and going to the Toilet Bowl.

Now it will take at least 3-5 years to start over with the right hire.

This is all on the ones that supported June that got giddy we went to a cruddy bowl while in a cruddy conference and any cruddy team with a 500 team got a bowl bid. I called for us to be smarter and demand more, but no one was interested.

A 43-6 loss to UNT is what we get for our stupidity.

Lets enjoy being the worst D-1 in football, get the right coach, and maybe in 4 years we can come close to being relevant again.

/cheers

You're still a troll

If you don't have the answer, a better coach than JJ who wants the job, you don't have much of
a right to criticize

[Sam I Am]

If Texas could fire Brown after a winning season then SMU could have done the same thing.

[peruna81]

You're still a troll

If you don't have the answer, a better coach than JJ who wants the job, you don't have much of
a right to criticize

Enough of the name-calling already. If there is a need to [deleted] and moan about who supports/doesn't support Jones, then somewhere along the way the issue has become ego, and not football. The other thread kicking around "Hey PlanoStang" and this one happily exist as we eat our own on a day that SMU football took a collective dump in Denton.

Everyone has an opinion, you know the saying that goes along with it...a right to criticize? You bet, if you have an investment (money/alum/passion) in this program. I don't get that 'right' by coming up with better ideas or coaches. I get it by being a FAN. What I DO know from hanging around this board, lurking, and occasionally posting is that:

Stallion is a better lawyer than I am...
Couch 'em is always right...
BUS wants more big guys, and wants to win...
PlanoStang has a few thousand more posts than me...
ponyte played more downs than I did...

...and there are people here that for whatever reason care enough to fuss, suggest, rant, and sadly shoot their own wounded. I think we are better than this.

Rant off. Sheesh, I feel like freakin' Rodney King with the pathetic "can't we all just get along" plea.

[Donnell88]

And we are kidding ourselves if we think the only problem is the coaching staff.
Players are accountable for their performance.
Like many of you, I played high school football (full disclosure - I didn't start until we had so many injuries, they had to play me). We lost a lot of games in two years but the coaching staff was only a small part of the problem; the other teams just seemed to have better players.
One thing I do believe in is momentum shifts, but those are hard to come by when the offence is always starting inside their own 10 or your quarterbacks throw five interceptions. (I had a C-plus
in Grade 6 arithmetic and that adds up to 60 per season).

[sbsmith]

And we are kidding ourselves if we think the only problem is the coaching staff.
Players are accountable for their performance.
Like many of you, I played high school football (full disclosure - I didn't start until we had so many injuries, they had to play me). We lost a lot of games in two years but the coaching staff was only a small part of the problem; the other teams just seemed to have better players.
One thing I do believe in is momentum shifts, but those are hard to come by when the offence is always starting inside their own 10 or your quarterbacks throw five interceptions. (I had a C-plus
in Grade 6 arithmetic and that adds up to 60 per season).

The players definitely aren't good enough (most of them have no business in FBS) but that's also on the coaching staff because they acquired the players.

[CenTXpony]

Four years ago, when I called for June to be dismissed because of his cruddy offense and "I don't care" recruiting, I was burned as a troll. The majority of the board was happy going 7-5 and playing in the weedeater bowl, like it was progress, even though anyone with a winning record went to a bowl game. In conference USA, we beat some of the worst teams in the nation to get a tick above .500 and be bowl eligible.

That is not progress, June's offense was outdated 15 years ago, he has no interest in recruiting. The vast majority of SMU's roster has no business playing D-1. Poor, POOR Recruiting.

We could have saved ourselves all this 4 years ago by recognizing the signs that were so obvious. Too many though were happy with a 500 hundred record and going to the Toilet Bowl.

Now it will take at least 3-5 years to start over with the right hire.

This is all on the ones that supported June that got giddy we went to a cruddy bowl while in a cruddy conference and any cruddy team with a 500 team got a bowl bid. I called for us to be smarter and demand more, but no one was interested.

A 43-6 loss to UNT is what we get for our stupidity.

Lets enjoy being the worst D-1 in football, get the right coach, and maybe in 4 years we can come close to being relevant again.

/cheers

You're still a troll

If you don't have the answer, a better coach than JJ who wants the job, you don't have much of
a right to criticize

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! My god you have to be June....

[floridianstang]

Four years ago, when I called for June to be dismissed because of his cruddy offense and "I don't care" recruiting, I was burned as a troll. The majority of the board was happy going 7-5 and playing in the weedeater bowl, like it was progress, even though anyone with a winning record went to a bowl game. In conference USA, we beat some of the worst teams in the nation to get a tick above .500 and be bowl eligible.

That is not progress, June's offense was outdated 15 years ago, he has no interest in recruiting. The vast majority of SMU's roster has no business playing D-1. Poor, POOR Recruiting.

We could have saved ourselves all this 4 years ago by recognizing the signs that were so obvious. Too many though were happy with a 500 hundred record and going to the Toilet Bowl.

Now it will take at least 3-5 years to start over with the right hire.

This is all on the ones that supported June that got giddy we went to a cruddy bowl while in a cruddy conference and any cruddy team with a 500 team got a bowl bid. I called for us to be smarter and demand more, but no one was interested.

A 43-6 loss to UNT is what we get for our stupidity.

Lets enjoy being the worst D-1 in football, get the right coach, and maybe in 4 years we can come close to being relevant again.

/cheers

You're still a troll

If you don't have the answer, a better coach than JJ who wants the job, you don't have much of
a right to criticize

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! My god you have to be June....

Most likely. He may be the last June fan.

[SMU_Alumni11]

At this point, Larry Brown would be better than having June Jones as HC for football. I'm with the twitter crowd, Chad Morris or Ed Orgeron, just seriously anybody. They should have been finding a reasonable buyout after the ASU debacle. Now, should be the perfect time to fire him and offer one of these guys to come over either next year and have mason be interim or have them come over now if available and construct something out of this crap group of people we call our team. No offense to the players but they should be playing division 2.

[bubba pony]

when JJ went to the Hawaii bowl I recall we were all ecstatic. even Peruna, JJ horses, band, cheerleaders went to Hawaii. It was a big deal. After that, JJ rolled over and coasted. he and some were content with low ranked bowls. when he tried to go to ASU, Orsini already extended his contract. for some reason I understood to fire JJ then would have cost SMU something like 3 years pay or $6 million. so he stayed. Now I read on this forum, that we had to keep him one more year to avoid a $2 million buy out and then we can dump him sometime in the middle of this season for chump change.
Orsini also didn't want LB. he mouthed off to Turner and got fired. Hart comes on and hands over the marketing to an outside source which did a great job promoting SMU basketball.
Hard said he had no comment after the UNT game I rather hear that then some AD spin about we have to improve and we'll do better. I read this as Hart knows what has to be done, does he have the stones to do it and who will he pick?

[Charleston Pony]

any AD in Hart's position has a short list of HC candidates, but there are financial considerations to be dealt with and he has to be on the same page as his boss, not to mention the money guys

[redpony]

I'm with the twitter crowd, Chad Morris or Ed Orgeron, just seriously anybody. They should have been finding a reasonable buyout after the ASU debacle. Now, should be the perfect time to fire him and offer one of these guys to come over either next year and have mason be interim or have them come over now if available and construct something out of this crap group of people we call our team. No offense to the players but they should be playing division 2.

And if things aren't done promptly we may be playing in D-II

[ponyscott]

shadowman...give us a break. You didn't tell us anything we didn't know already and we all felt the same way all along save and accept for a few hangers-on. You are not the clairvoyant you think you are.

[redpony]

any AD in Hart's position has a short list of HC candidates but there are financial considerations to be dealt with and he has to be on the same page as his boss, not to mention the money guys

Not sure capser has done much about getting hc prospects lined up. I also seriously doubt if casper has the stones to tell his boss and the CofC that changes must be made now or they will lose what little fan base they have left for the rest of the season.