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by fifty » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:06 pm
We need ron meyer jr. When he got good recruits, he actually made sweeping offensive changes plus he could actually recruit; even before all the violations.
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by couch 'em » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:11 pm
Didn't Ron Meyer underperform? Extreme player purchasing and possibly the greatest running back of all time.... still couldn't win every game. Only 2 of 6 seasons even had a winning record.
The 1981 10-1 team included 3 garbage FCS equivalent wins - UTA, UNT, and Grambling. Of the remaining 7 wins, only 3 had winning records.
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by Arkpony » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:44 pm
Ah, but Grambling had The Tall Trees of Terror!
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by PonySnob » Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:53 am
couch 'em wrote:Didn't Ron Meyer underperform? Extreme player purchasing and possibly the greatest running back of all time.... still couldn't win every game. Only 2 of 6 seasons even had a winning record.
The 1981 10-1 team included 3 garbage FCS equivalent wins - UTA, UNT, and Grambling. Of the remaining 7 wins, only 3 had winning records.
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by mrydel » Tue Nov 11, 2014 9:58 am
We also played in a conference that was the equivalent of the SEC today. When you have a strong conference you can justify a couple of weak games. When your conference is the weak link you need to schedule up in the non conference.
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by mustangxc » Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:54 pm
Charleston Pony wrote:It seems every time some team with a hot offensive coordinator/aspiring head coach type has a good or bad game, several posters jump on or off that guy's bandwagon. Then we have the "high profile" tease with Mack Brown, but plenty of us worry whether he will have the same motivation that Larry Brown had coming to SMU...not to mention it is actually possible to win a national championship in bball at SMU but virtually impossible to accomplish that same goal in football.
I'm not a fan of bringing in a coordinator who has not been successful as a head coach. Too many of those guys have failed at programs with a lot more to offer than SMU. One thing is for sure; we need a guy who has been successful in recruiting and has shown he can bring in a top QB talent, because it all starts there. We need a Ron Meyer type salesman but he also has to be a guy who can lure talent without the help of yesteryear's bag men. Hopefully the budget will allow the new HC to bring in a top flight group of assistants who will be good coaches as well as proven/successful recruiters, and as many have said...they really need to have Texas ties.
Not sure who that guy is going to be, but from where I sit, Chad Morris appears to have a strong resume.
What head coaching experience does Morris have? HS does not count.
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by Rebel10 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:00 pm
mustangxc wrote:Charleston Pony wrote:It seems every time some team with a hot offensive coordinator/aspiring head coach type has a good or bad game, several posters jump on or off that guy's bandwagon. Then we have the "high profile" tease with Mack Brown, but plenty of us worry whether he will have the same motivation that Larry Brown had coming to SMU...not to mention it is actually possible to win a national championship in bball at SMU but virtually impossible to accomplish that same goal in football.
I'm not a fan of bringing in a coordinator who has not been successful as a head coach. Too many of those guys have failed at programs with a lot more to offer than SMU. One thing is for sure; we need a guy who has been successful in recruiting and has shown he can bring in a top QB talent, because it all starts there. We need a Ron Meyer type salesman but he also has to be a guy who can lure talent without the help of yesteryear's bag men. Hopefully the budget will allow the new HC to bring in a top flight group of assistants who will be good coaches as well as proven/successful recruiters, and as many have said...they really need to have Texas ties.
Not sure who that guy is going to be, but from where I sit, Chad Morris appears to have a strong resume.
What head coaching experience does Morris have? HS does not count.
Same amount as Jumbo Fisher had before he took over Florida State and the same amount as Dan Mullen had before he took over Mississippi State.
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by Stallion » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:25 pm
When is the myth that you have to have Division 1A Head Coaching experience to win going to die. Again, name me a former SWC, Big 12, Big 8 school and I'll show you that their best coaching hire was not an experienced Division 1A Coach when he was hired
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by ebrooks11 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:27 pm
Rebel10 wrote:mustangxc wrote:Charleston Pony wrote:It seems every time some team with a hot offensive coordinator/aspiring head coach type has a good or bad game, several posters jump on or off that guy's bandwagon. Then we have the "high profile" tease with Mack Brown, but plenty of us worry whether he will have the same motivation that Larry Brown had coming to SMU...not to mention it is actually possible to win a national championship in bball at SMU but virtually impossible to accomplish that same goal in football.
I'm not a fan of bringing in a coordinator who has not been successful as a head coach. Too many of those guys have failed at programs with a lot more to offer than SMU. One thing is for sure; we need a guy who has been successful in recruiting and has shown he can bring in a top QB talent, because it all starts there. We need a Ron Meyer type salesman but he also has to be a guy who can lure talent without the help of yesteryear's bag men. Hopefully the budget will allow the new HC to bring in a top flight group of assistants who will be good coaches as well as proven/successful recruiters, and as many have said...they really need to have Texas ties.
Not sure who that guy is going to be, but from where I sit, Chad Morris appears to have a strong resume.
What head coaching experience does Morris have? HS does not count.
Same amount as Jumbo Fisher had before he took over Florida State and the same amount as Dan Mullen had before he took over Mississippi State.
Also the same amount as Todd Dodge, Turner Gill and Phil Bennett.
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by redpony » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:30 pm
Stallion wrote: Again, name me a former SWC, Big 12, Big 8 school and I'll show you that their best coaching hire was not an experienced Division 1A Coach when he was hired
Bear Bryant.
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by ebrooks11 » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:35 pm
Mack Brown
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by StallionsModelT » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:35 pm
Mack Brown was an established D1A head coach before going to Texas.
Back off Warchild seriously.
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by sbsmith » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:38 pm
Stallion wrote:When is the myth that you have to have Division 1A Head Coaching experience to win going to die.
If June's failure here didn't kill it then nothing will.
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by Ikus » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:38 pm
The issue isn't whether a coach has to have D-I head coaching experience. The issue is whether Rick Hart feels a coach has to have that experience to be hired, and none of us knows whether he feels that is the case.
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by Stallion » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:38 pm
well I don't consider Mack Brown to be their most successful coach
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