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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby CoxMustangFan » Sun Nov 30, 2014 11:56 am

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mrydel wrote:For the SEC. After tonight they may end up without anyone in the top 4. They are devouring each other.


Intra-SEC matchups didn't help them today, but really it was the ACC that devoured the SEC today with Clemson>South Carolina, FSU>Florida, Louisville>Kentucky, and Georgia Tech>Georgia. SEC homers rightly point out those are all SEC East teams, but which exactly are the signature SEC West OOC wins that justify them being regarded as the best division in the history of college football?


C'mon, I know you're an ACC homer, but that's ridiculous. Two of those wins were by the best two teams in the ACC against down SEC programs. Kentucky is terrible. Only one that was unexpected was Georgia. How about you match Bama against Duke, LSU against B College, Mizzou against Wake, etc.? Even in a down year the SEC is the best top to bottom football conference. ACC is number 5 and it isn't even close.
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby leopold » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:15 pm

Well, for starters they are undeafeted in OOC play - by my count that is 28-0. I don't care who they play - and that has included wins against the Big Ten division champ Wisconsin and other strong teams like Kansas State, West Virginia, Boise State - that's an impressive record.

But I'll be honest with you - Missouri is a tough match-up for Alabama. Missouri has a lot of speed, and those 270 lb. LB's at Bama may have a tough time with the Tigers.
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby RebStang » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:16 pm

Dukie wrote:
mrydel wrote:For the SEC. After tonight they may end up without anyone in the top 4. They are devouring each other.


Intra-SEC matchups didn't help them today, but really it was the ACC that devoured the SEC today with Clemson>South Carolina, FSU>Florida, Louisville>Kentucky, and Georgia Tech>Georgia. SEC homers rightly point out those are all SEC East teams, but which exactly are the signature SEC West OOC wins that justify them being regarded as the best division in the history of college football?


Well, the SEC West went 3-0 in non-conference games against teams in the playoff committee's top 25.

The ACC (whole conference), on the other hand, looks to have only played 2 non-conference games against a team currently ranked int he committee's top 25... both games were against Georgia and the ACC went 1-1 in those 2 games.
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:29 pm

The ACC had a great weekend against their SEC rivals and that certainly helps boost FSU's seeding, assuming they get past Ga Tech. The SEC doesn't typically play a very strong non-conference schedule, but as others have pointed out, they do have some impressive wins including LSU over Wisconsin, Auburn over Kansas State & Georgia over Clemson. I suppose, if you consider Baylor couldn't handle West Virginia and TCU just snuck by them, Bama's relatively easy win over the Mountaineers should be considered a good one. Ole Miss easily handled Boise State and Memphis, 2 of the better G5 schools. Hard to argue against the SEC west being the strongest division in college football, but the PAC 12 south might disagree. Meanwhile, those who think FSU skates to an easy unbeated season in the ACC should consider they beat Clemson, Louisville and non-conference foes Notre Dame, Okie State & Florida. That's no "patsy" schedule.
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Nightmare scenario

Postby mrydel » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:41 pm

I do not know what the best conference is but I am pretty certain that the SEC West is good enough to rate one team in the playoff. But had Auburn won last night, or if Missouri wins next week, the SEC will not be represented. That is the breaks for having a very good division. Probably should add SMU to the SEC West to hell them out some.
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby lwjr » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:58 pm

mrydel wrote:I do not know what the best conference is but I am pretty certain that the SEC West is good enough to rate one team in the playoff. But had Auburn won last night, or if Missouri wins next week, the SEC will not be represented. That is the breaks for having a very good division. Probably should add SMU to the SEC West to hell them out some.

"to hell them out". They probably need a methodist school to be redeemed
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby CoxMustangFan » Sun Nov 30, 2014 12:58 pm

RebStang wrote:
Dukie wrote:
mrydel wrote:For the SEC. After tonight they may end up without anyone in the top 4. They are devouring each other.


Intra-SEC matchups didn't help them today, but really it was the ACC that devoured the SEC today with Clemson>South Carolina, FSU>Florida, Louisville>Kentucky, and Georgia Tech>Georgia. SEC homers rightly point out those are all SEC East teams, but which exactly are the signature SEC West OOC wins that justify them being regarded as the best division in the history of college football?


Well, the SEC West went 3-0 in non-conference games against teams in the playoff committee's top 25.

The ACC (whole conference), on the other hand, looks to have only played 2 non-conference games against a team currently ranked int he committee's top 25... both games were against Georgia and the ACC went 1-1 in those 2 games.


You nearly got beat by KU a couple weeks back. Following your logic you don't even belong in the discussion.
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby mrydel » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:03 pm

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mrydel wrote:I do not know what the best conference is but I am pretty certain that the SEC West is good enough to rate one team in the playoff. But had Auburn won last night, or if Missouri wins next week, the SEC will not be represented. That is the breaks for having a very good division. Probably should add SMU to the SEC West to hell them out some.

"to hell them out". They probably need a methodist school to be redeemed

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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby East Coast Mustang » Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:11 pm

The top four teams in the nation all play in the SEC West:

Bama
Ole Miss
Miss St
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:13 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:The top four teams in the nation all play in the SEC West:

Bama
Ole Miss
Miss St
Auburn


Oregon begs to differ...and might win the whole thing this year
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby East Coast Mustang » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:14 pm

Oregon would get run off the field by Bama, Auburn, and probably Ole Miss. They might give State a game
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:21 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:Oregon would get run off the field by Bama, Auburn, and probably Ole Miss. They might give State a game


that's the beauty of this new system. We will probably get to see what happens
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby Digetydog » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:40 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:The top four teams in the nation all play in the SEC West:

Bama
Ole Miss
Miss St
Auburn


Please! The vaunted SEC went o-fer against the ACC yesterday.

Bama, Oregon, Frogs, and FSU deserve the top 4 spots right now.
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby East Coast Mustang » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:45 pm

Digetydog wrote:Please! The vaunted SEC went o-fer against the ACC yesterday.

Ha, UK (who is horrible) took a ranked Louisville team down to the wire.

Georgia blew it against a good, ranked Ga. Tech team. That was a good win for ACC

Florida with a lame duck coach gave #3 FSU all they wanted in Tallahassee

SC blows this year
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Re: Nightmare scenario

Postby Digetydog » Sun Nov 30, 2014 2:47 pm

East Coast Mustang wrote:
Digetydog wrote:Please! The vaunted SEC went o-fer against the ACC yesterday.

Ha, UK (who is horrible) took a ranked Louisville team down to the wire.

Georgia blew it against a good, ranked Ga. Tech team. That was a good win for ACC

Florida with a lame duck coach gave #3 FSU all they wanted in Tallahassee

SC blows this year


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