ranking AAC qbs

[JasonB]

Give Davis a solid OL and some receivers who can separate and I'd put the kid in the top 10 QB all time at SMU. I think he's THAT good. YOU try to play where you're getting sacked 5-6 times a game and someone's in your face 2 seconds after the snap and see how well YOU do. I'd start freaking out by midseason and running and holding onto the ball and start making all kinds of crazy decisions too. As far as I'm concerned, he had one terrible game last year. Outside of that, I don't think a lot of his poor play was his fault. Of course, I'd like him to make his pass reading progressions much faster, but maybe now after being under Coach Morris for a season he'll be better there this year.

Look, I was the one who was laughed at before last season by saying Davis would end up at 3500 yards while everyone else thought Hicks would start by game 3.

That said, the Temple and Cincy QB situations are better.

Matt is a great athlete, a great leader, and a better person. And he might take another step forward with another year in the offense. None of us know if he was carrying an injury in the second half of the year that impacted his passing accuracy significantly. But I do think that Colbert and Hicks both might push him for the starting spot in the Spring. Neither is as mobile, but Colbert showed some real promise with his accuracy last season, and the coaches love Hicks.

[vielsiehorsepower]

Think about it this way: Compared to our recent QBs, he is arguably better than everyone except Gilbert.
BLM - ???
Padron - Better
McDermott - Much Better
Gilbert - Not Better
Burcham - Much Better

How is he arguably better than Padron?

1) In 2010, against lesser competition and with 2 more games, Padron only had 4000 yards. If Davis had Padron's OL and 2 NFL WRs to throw to, I think their Total Offense stats would be very close.
2) Davis didn't quit when things got tough.

He didn't quit..except when he got passed up on the depth chart and transferred to juco? Your posts are getting laughable at this point

[Digetydog]

Always interesting to see how writers who cover our opponents see the guys on our team. It will be interesting to see whether Davis can improve dramatically in his 2nd year in Chad Morris' offense. Will be a huge factor in whether the 2016 season can be a big improvement over 2015

I think people on PF are unfairly critical of Davis because they undervalue his running ability. Behind a bad OL and with true freshman manning his backfield, he managed to account for 3,000 yards of total offense. Even with a bad OL, his stats compare favorably (often significantly so) to many of the players on that list. (Plus, he never had the benefits of padding his stats by playing against our defense).

Will he be a number 1 draft pick at QB? NEVER

Is he an above average AAC QB? Absolutely.

Think about it this way: Compared to our recent QBs, he is arguably better than everyone except Gilbert.
BLM - ???
Padron - Better
McDermott - Much Better
Gilbert - Not Better
Burcham - Much Better

Just the sheer fact that you put a question mark on blm and outright stated that he's better than Padron (who took blms job) and McDermott (who took pardons job) leads me to not take you too seriously. And as far as throwing the football I'd take all three over davis. His saving grace is being stupidly athletic. He is not a qb

Because SMU games were rarely on tv during BLM's time, I rarely got to watch him play. Thus, I don't feel comfortable judging his play. Year 1 was a fiasco for everyone under June. I don't blame him. Year 2 - he was splitting time with Padron and ended up quitting after the season. Since BLM did very well at EWU and in the CFL, I assume he developed into a good passer; however, he lacks Davis' mobility.

McDermott didn't take Padron's job as much as Padron quit and/or got injured. McDermott had a lot of heart. Nevertheless, he wouldn't make the Top 3 on the current QB depth chart.

[PonyKai]

McDermott seemed serviceable though. Maybe it's just the rosiness of hindsight.

[StallionsModelT]

Davis was feast or famine. Certainly not the third best QB in the American. He's somewhere between 8-10.

[Digetydog]

1) In 2010, against lesser competition and with 2 more games, Padron only had 4000 yards. If Davis had Padron's OL and 2 NFL WRs to throw to, I think their Total Offense stats would be very close.
2) Davis didn't quit when things got tough.

He didn't quit..except when he got passed up on the depth chart and transferred to juco? Your posts are getting laughable at this point[/quote]

He certainly did not put up much of a fight for his job.

In 2011, he lost his job to McDermott who (a) was not very good and (b) who ran out of eligibility at the end of the season. McDermott was no threat to his long term prospects for starting.
Rather than return to fight for his job in 2012 against Gilbert (who was transferring in) and (?? Preston, Kaiser??), he chose to transfer to EWU. Considering how poorly Gilbert played at UT, Padron's decision not to try to win the job was questionable.

After splitting time in 2012 at EWU with Vernon Wells (who turned out to be a very good QB), he left EWU rather than fight for the job.

Bottom line: He either lost (and/or didn't fight for) two starting jobs including a FCS level job.

Although Padron is a better passer than Davis, I'll take Davis (and his mobility/heart/leadership) over Padron all day long.

[No Quarter]

Well, the published article to say nothing of the comments from some fans certainly ought to be incentive enough for Davis to fight for HIS job...

GO PONIES!

[sbsmith]

Although Padron is a better passer than Davis, I'll take Davis (and his mobility/heart/leadership) over Padron all day long.

Padron showed a lot more heart/leadership when he took us to a bowl game as a true freshman.

[sbsmith]

1) In 2010, against lesser competition and with 2 more games, Padron only had 4000 yards. If Davis had Padron's OL and 2 NFL WRs to throw to, I think their Total Offense stats would be very close.
2) Davis didn't quit when things got tough.

If Davis had Padron's OL and WRs he'd still come up well short of that TO mark because those factors would be lessened given Davis' lousy pocket presence. He'd still be missing open receivers and scrambling into a ton of sacks.

[Digetydog]

Although Padron is a better passer than Davis, I'll take Davis (and his mobility/heart/leadership) over Padron all day long.

Padron showed a lot more heart/leadership when he took us to a bowl game as a true freshman.

Because of all the craziness that went on with June and the QB position, it was probably unfair to call him a quitter and I apologize.

But, Davis has played hard despite:
1) Having his coach quit on the team after 2 games.
2) Having to play in 2014 behind what may have been the worst OL in college football history.
3) Having to play in 2015 behind an OL that was easily the worst in the AAC.

If he could transfer without losing eligibility, I would bet that some P5 teams would be looking to take him off our hands.

[Digetydog]

1) In 2010, against lesser competition and with 2 more games, Padron only had 4000 yards. If Davis had Padron's OL and 2 NFL WRs to throw to, I think their Total Offense stats would be very close.
2) Davis didn't quit when things got tough.

If Davis had Padron's OL and WRs he'd still come up well short of that TO mark because those factors would be lessened given Davis' lousy pocket presence. He'd still be missing open receivers and scrambling into a ton of sacks.

With Padron's team and Morris' offense (which favors a running QB), Davis would have had over 1000 yards rushing to go with 2800 yards passing.

[vielsiehorsepower]

1) In 2010, against lesser competition and with 2 more games, Padron only had 4000 yards. If Davis had Padron's OL and 2 NFL WRs to throw to, I think their Total Offense stats would be very close.
2) Davis didn't quit when things got tough.

If Davis had Padron's OL and WRs he'd still come up well short of that TO mark because those factors would be lessened given Davis' lousy pocket presence. He'd still be missing open receivers and scrambling into a ton of sacks.

With Padron's team and Morris' offense (which favors a running QB), Davis would have had over 1000 yards rushing to go with 2800 yards passing.

You realize padron wasn't purely a pocket passer, right? He scramble often and would have more if June had a brain. With an adjusted morris offense padron would have had considerably more passing yards than 2800. In June's run and crap offense he had 3800 plus like 300 rushing yards.

[sbsmith]

Because of all the craziness that went on with June and the QB position, it was probably unfair to call him a quitter and I apologize.

But, Davis has played hard despite:
1) Having his coach quit on the team after 2 games.
2) Having to play in 2014 behind what may have been the worst OL in college football history.
3) Having to play in 2015 behind an OL that was easily the worst in the AAC.

If he could transfer without losing eligibility, I would bet that some P5 teams would be looking to take him off our hands.

You're right about him keeping his chin up during some rough times for this program (which he'll be remembered for long after he leaves here).

[StallionsModelT]

If Sutton is covered and the defense uses a LB or S as a spy then Davis was nearly useless last year.

[Grant Carter]

So does anyone have an opinion about why he ranked Davis 4th?