Baylor is screwed

[HorsePower]

Isn't it more likely that the on-field fallout will be next year or the year after? No matter who they hire as coach, or if Bennett is the guy on an interim basis, they still have a ton of talent, unless there is a mass exodus.

[EastStang]

As long as Baylor is in the same conference w/ UT the NCAA will figure out a way to punish the Bears.

[sbsmith]

Isn't it more likely that the on-field fallout will be next year or the year after? No matter who they hire as coach, or if Bennett is the guy on an interim basis, they still have a ton of talent, unless there is a mass exodus.

A lot of people thought the same thing about Arkansas after they fired Petrino in 2012. Their staff and roster stayed largely in tact and they went from Preseason Top 10 to 4-8.

[leopold]

PEOPLE AREN'T GETTING IT and apparently it's not just the Baylor fans.

Baylor is looking at a dozen young women, conservatively, who were raped/assaulted. It could be upwards of 25 or 30. And there was a systematic cover up on multiple levels, Google "Baylor University Board of Regents Findings of Fact" and read it. It's disgusting. A Baylor fan on their own website called it 'vomitous.' He's right. Baylor wasn't just passive towards the cries for help, they were 'openly hostile' in some cases.

Think about this: they were RETALIATORY in one case of a girl who was raped.

BU is looking at a class action lawsuit that is going to cost them into the 9 figures - EASY. Depending upon how big it is, there is a 1-100 chance that this could bankrupt the school, and that's not an exaggeration. It cost Duke $20M apiece for for four students who were wrongly accused of rape, and in that instance the school wasn't even the aggressor. What's a going to cost Baylor, who brought in rapists and protected them? $40M per victim? $50M? Multiply that by 20 or 30, maybe more on both accounts.

SOMEONE who worked at that school is probably going to jail, depending upon how good of a lawyer they can retain, and I'm NOT talking about a student athlete. It very well could be a coach. Phil Bennett better lawyer up - NOW. Let them find the e-mail showing that a key Athletic Department official knew what was going on and did nothing, let alone covered it up. There won't be an athletic department.

Baylor's own alumni are walking away - they have to. They've seen Baylor's own report. They can't stand by their alma mater. I haven't seen one of my Baylor friends on Facebook cry foul, and there's a reason for that.

Baylor will be lucky to have a team this fall, and coaches are going to stay away from this program in DROVES. I'm told they didn't hire a full time Title IX Coordinator until late 2014 - that's most likely a NCAA violation right there (not there needs to be) and there will be more to follow, and even if there's not the school will have to self-impose to protect it's own interests.

[stc9]

I read the Statement of Facts presented by Pepper Hamilton (See link below). I cannot decide if Baylor was consciously trying to avoid complying with Title IX or the administration at the school is just inept. Even if the football team wasn't involved, with the politics and influence peddling that accompanies big time programs, BU stills has a legal and moral requirement to protect it's students. The statement of facts basically says that anyone could have gotten away with sexual assault on that campus. Again, ignoring the football team, how many young women were brutalized on that campus and nothing done about it? How many of these young women were forced to leave school because they were suffering from PTSD? Or that PTSD turned into depression, alcoholism or drug use?

Football and Art Briles are the least of the problems on that campus...


http://www.baylor.edu/rtsv/doc.php/266596.pdf

[Mustangsabu]

What happened at Baylor is awful, and the response is the very least that is warranted as they try to save their football program. That said, we should be careful as it was only a couple of years ago that SMU was found to have violated title IX in the deficiencies of the manner in which we institutionally handled rape and sexual assaults. It didn't involve high profile football players but the fame of the antagonists should not be material where rape is concerned.


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[mrydel]

I am not sure what the NCAA role is in this situation. Much is outside of their area (see Penn State) but I have to believe that the NCAA is seeking a way to level Baylor in a way to turn attention from them being lenient on UNC.

[smusportspage]

As long as Baylor is in the same conference w/ UT the NCAA will figure out a way to punish the Bears.

Yep.

[JasonB]

The bankruptcy case is interesting...

Dale Hansen (ugh) was on 105.3 yesterday and said he kind of expects Baylor to do what SMU did after the death penalty - put so many restrictions in place that it will become impossible to compete.

[CoxMustangFan]

I haven't read all of the posts, buy any truth to the "rumor" that Chad Morris is a top candidate?

[PonyTime]

And they won't have her to bail them out this time...

[SmooBoy]

While I like Phil Bennett, I can't see him or any of the coaches surviving this. The school knows they can't fire the staff and expect the team to hold together.

We are so early on, lots of other chips will fall in the coming days and weeks.

[Stallion]

Baylor will not make the same mistake that SMU did by imposing ridiculous academic standards on recruits-you can take that to the Bank-that was an incredibly stupid overreaction that SMU is still paying for today. To stop CHEATING you hire people with integrity that don't CHEAT. To stop CRIMINAL activity you don't recruit thugs with CRIMINAL records. Baylor will increase Title IX compliance too significantly. (and yes I've been concerned about how SMU handles this area too). SMU's scandal in the 1980s had nothing to do with higher academic standards and neither does Baylor's scandal now. What we saw at SMU was a vacuum in the athletic department for 1 full year, a discouraged and embarrassed alumni base and a power grab by academic interests before replacement athletic personnel were hired.

[One Trick Pony]

It's naïve and unrealistic to believe that everyone doesn't cheat. Get over it it's part of the process

[Pony81]

Stallion, what are your thoughts on the legal liability Baylor faces on this matter? Is it as dire as some earlier posters where BU may be liable for $100 million+ settlements?