Kliavkoff has presented media rights deal to Pac-12

[max the wonder dog]

Canzano: A groan? A scream? Deal or no deal?

Pac-12 CEO Group gets look at media deal.

The Pac-12 is sorting out a media deal.

A collective groan could be heard across the Pac-12 Conference footprint on Tuesday.

Or was it more of a scream?

Pac-12 CEO Group met for an hour early Tuesday morning. Commissioner George Kliavkoff presented his board with the long-awaited details of the media-rights deal. The meeting adjourned and the board agreed to meet again.

Another meeting? What needs to happen?

Said a source: “To get final approval.”... (Paywall)

[mtrout]

wtf is the Pac-12 CEO group?

[DallasDiehard]

My prediction:

All who can leave PAC12 for greener pastures, do so now.

SMU joins what left of the PAC12 on a weaker media deal. Better than AAC, but what's left will hardly resemble a P5 anymore.

The AAC won't get more money but they might get more viewers than the PAC on Apple.

If so, Kliavkoff should be fired immediately. Even Pac-12 leftovers are a better conference, which should be reflected in the media deal.

[WordUpBU]

My prediction:

All who can leave PAC12 for greener pastures, do so now.

SMU joins what left of the PAC12 on a weaker media deal. Better than AAC, but what's left will hardly resemble a P5 anymore.

The AAC won't get more money but they might get more viewers than the PAC on Apple.

The exposure on the AAC is going to be MASSIVELY more.

70+M subscribers for ESPN/ESPN2. Apple TV has maybe 25 like espn+ does but this might be an even smaller add-on subscription with an even smaller potential reach.

Exposure is very limited unless they work a lot of sublicense to the top reaching cable networks but if you’re apple why sell what you need to drive subs?

[Peruna94&07]

Ok I realize people are going to say I don't have the lowdown on what's happening but I heard this directly from a non revenue coach from the big 12 that Arizona will be announcing in the next day or so they are moving to the big 12.

I will not debate my source nor reveal it. This is not because it is not true but that I must preserve my relationships with the folks that allowed me to listen to the private phone call.

I am not happy this is the outcome but I fear we need to be prepared for it.

Lets hope this pushed the acc to do some and we are their first choicem


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[Peruna Power]

This is really bad news for us either way…

If the subscription based streaming package is the media deal, there is very little incentive for the PAC 12/Legacy Pac members to bring in SMU. The “DFW media market” upside is immediately out the window if the games are not be broadcast into the homes across the metroplex. Instead there would have to be enough SMU fans/subscribers to move the needle on the payout which isn’t happening even if we join a P5.

If things are based on potential subscribers, they will gravitate towards SDSU, and then another state school like UNLV or Fresno State to push the subscribers and get the additional $$$ needed to get to the Big 12 range. If we are willing to accept the current $7M and give the difference to the rest of the members, perhaps that’s how we get around it. I think that’s our current upside.

I really hope I’m wrong, but I see two likely
Scenarios unfolding:

1) U of A leaves and the conference implodes

2) U of A stays and Pac invites SDSU only to get to 10 teams and pick up the “subscribers” needed while keeping the pie small enough to adequately compensate the existing schools.

The perfect scenario that I’m holding out long shot hope, U of A stays and they add us and SDSU but not sure that makes a whole lot of sense anymore

Self admitting sports hater in me thinks: “hope the pac survives” unless we aren’t getting invited in which case “I hope they implode.” At least I’m honest

[mtrout]

Arizona leaving makes room for us. Then sdsu + smu = 10 teams. I’m more worried that more than just Arizona may leave.

[max the wonder dog]

Arizona leaving makes room for us. Then sdsu + smu = 10 teams. I’m more worried that more than just Arizona may leave.

I'm worried that the lack of broadcast/ESPN/FS1 coverage hurts recruiting and local support. We won't be reaching casual fans/recruits if they first have to buy Apple TV then add on a PAC 12 package.

AP says Apple will be the primary network. Let's see what the more accessible piece of the package looks like. If that part of the package is di minimus and I'm AZ, AZ State, or Utah,I'd say adios, Big 12 here I come. If it's REALLY bad, I'm not sure the extra $$$ offsets SMU's loss of exposure. If a team wins in the dark is there anyone there to cheer them on?

[EastStang]

I'm kind of surprised that CBS and NBC aren't more prominent in the mix. CBS will have the B1G in 2024. NBC has Big Ten and ND as well. Unless you want late night MWC games on your networks, there is room for the PAC. There are also as we know in the AAC, Friday night opportunities as well. Drunken mountain and west coasters on a Friday night would love to watch a game that starts at 8 p.m. Pacific Time in their favorite sports bar. I am not sure if Kliakoff is out of his element, or what. The ACC is at $17 Million and the PAC with fewer teams may be in the $15 Million category. All the networks have a streaming element as well. So, the game of the week goes on ESPN or CBS or NBC, or ABC or Fox at 11 p.m. eastern time, and the rest of the games get streamed like ESPN + does. I see the Big XII contract being renegotiated in about 3 years when the ratings start to show. I don't think a Baylor- UCF game is going to draw as many viewers as an Penn State - Maryland game. But an 11 pm. Washington - Cal game will draw a good market share in the western time zones with only MWC competition.

[PonyTime]

This is all excellent news. When UCONN joins the Big12, perhaps we will finally get our chance at the Big East!

Then we can re-hire Larry Brown. LOL

[WordUpBU]

I'm kind of surprised that CBS and NBC aren't more prominent in the mix. CBS will have the B1G in 2024. NBC has Big Ten and ND as well. Unless you want late night MWC games on your networks, there is room for the PAC. There are also as we know in the AAC, Friday night opportunities as well. Drunken mountain and west coasters on a Friday night would love to watch a game that starts at 8 p.m. Pacific Time in their favorite sports bar. I am not sure if Kliakoff is out of his element, or what. The ACC is at $17 Million and the PAC with fewer teams may be in the $15 Million category. All the networks have a streaming element as well. So, the game of the week goes on ESPN or CBS or NBC, or ABC or Fox at 11 p.m. eastern time, and the rest of the games get streamed like ESPN + does. I see the Big XII contract being renegotiated in about 3 years when the ratings start to show. I don't think a Baylor- UCF game is going to draw as many viewers as an Penn State - Maryland game. But an 11 pm. Washington - Cal game will draw a good market share in the western time zones with only MWC competition.

1- NBC and CBS are set without them.
PAC can’t really play at noon. Open windows for cbs and nbc at that time don’t help the PAC.

CBS I’m the afternoon has the Big Ten every week. In prime time they get 2M viewers for replaying a weeknight scripted show and the pac averages only 2.7M on prime time on Fox. Not worth the big payout to get those games.

NBC has NASCAR, Golf, Horse Racing and most importantly ND in the afternoon slot. They have the Big Ten in prime time.

Neither needs the PAC.

2- The Big 12 deal was priced based on expected viewership at virtually even price per game by two competing networks. The odds of it getting slashed is approximately zero. You honestly think two of the best media companies on the planet are running a charity for flyover country? They have it priced at a level where viewership should be easy to hit to justify what they got when you consider how much inventory was given.

3- The late slot for the PAC will NOT outperform the Big 12 on FOX, ABC, or ESPN. The late slot RARELY breaks 2M. Games on those three do so often. You have a higher floor for viewers in that time slot due to fewer games splitting the audience BUT you also have a cap on viewers since half the national audience is asleep. Limited ad sale upside = less price per game broadcast upside.

[EastStang]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/george-kliavkoff-did-not-good-113741603.html

A pretty damning article on Kliavkoff and the CEO's.

[mtrout]

I don't know how they could have screwed this up any worse.