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Re: ACC lawsuit

Postby Graceland Tar Heel » Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:37 pm

Dukie wrote:
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Peruna Power wrote:Clemson & FSU are yes votes
UNC & Duke will make additional cash due to Basketball ratings
Outside of Miami who has not shown the desire to depart, not sure any other university votes no as it’s in each of those school’s best interest to keep the ACC together.

Most importantly, ESPN wants this so they don’t lose these two properties to Fox.

Holding breath until it’s done but it makes too much sense for every player in this scenario for it not to happen in some capacity.

Fans of Wake, BC, and Syracuse are adamantly opposed to any revenue granted for higher TV numbers. That is because they cannot deliver them - they drag down ACC TV numbers the most. Doos's are as low, but Dook TV numbers for basketball are massive, often slightly higher than UNC's.

Duke's football TV numbers last year were excellent. (Yes, games against Clemson and Notre Dame on ABC/ESPN helped but are not the entire story, either.)

That is the best opposition logic to this: that it all depends on who you play. And each of us has freedom to schedule 4 OOC games. If you schedule crap, you will draw no viewers.

I think the ACC should ban any games against any 1AA/FCS teams. And it should offer some incentive just to play 2 teams from the other P4.
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Re: ACC lawsuit

Postby PonyME » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:32 pm

It’s somewhat of a catch 22 for us, in my opinion. On the one hand I’m all for coming up with a formula that makes sense and solidifies the ACC long term. But it seems a bit more complex than controlling your own schedule. The ACC sets the league schedule. And it’s far easier for FSU or Clemson or UNC or Miami to schedule OOC series that will draw huge tv numbers than the ‘smaller’ schools. Our home and home with Baylor is a step in the right direction but how many viewers are going to tune into that type of game nationally unless it’s between two ranked teams and the game isn’t at 11am or up against a NFL game (like our game vs BYU). Is OU returning to Dallas for our home and home? Wake cancelled their return trip to Ole Miss for their own reasons, but may have thought twice about cancelling that game if it meant hurting their conference payout based on tv ratings. It seems so arbitrary but the reality is that conferences generally thrive as a whole if there are a handful of top dogs so maybe it could work. And possibly give the most valuable Big 12 teams reason to jump when it’s time?
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Re: ACC lawsuit

Postby Charleston Pony » Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:58 pm

PonyME wrote:It’s somewhat of a catch 22 for us, in my opinion. On the one hand I’m all for coming up with a formula that makes sense and solidifies the ACC long term. But it seems a bit more complex than controlling your own schedule. The ACC sets the league schedule. And it’s far easier for FSU or Clemson or UNC or Miami to schedule OOC series that will draw huge tv numbers than the ‘smaller’ schools. Our home and home with Baylor is a step in the right direction but how many viewers are going to tune into that type of game nationally unless it’s between two ranked teams and the game isn’t at 11am or up against a NFL game (like our game vs BYU). Is OU returning to Dallas for our home and home? Wake cancelled their return trip to Ole Miss for their own reasons, but may have thought twice about cancelling that game if it meant hurting their conference payout based on tv ratings. It seems so arbitrary but the reality is that conferences generally thrive as a whole if there are a handful of top dogs so maybe it could work. And possibly give the most valuable Big 12 teams reason to jump when it’s time?


OU is scheduled to give us a return visit in 2027 but we've been stood up before so we'll see how that plays out. So far we have OU at home and BYU on the road as non-conference games in 2027
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Re: ACC lawsuit

Postby max the wonder dog » Fri Sep 20, 2024 11:04 am

Teams are more interested in Dallas exposure than exposure in most of the other markets in the ACC (Florida schools being notable exceptions), giving us some competitive advantage when seeking OOC opponents.
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Re: ACC lawsuit

Postby EastStang » Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:25 pm

Are OU and UT still playing every year in Dallas now that they're in the SEC?
UNC better keep that Ram away from Peruna
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Re: ACC lawsuit

Postby Dukie » Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:35 pm

EastStang wrote:Are OU and UT still playing every year in Dallas now that they're in the SEC?

Yes. Just like UGA and UF.
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