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Postby gostangs » Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:53 am

JT - I am not a freaking child (whatever that is) and FYI you sound a bit immature when you throw that out as a response. I have come to the conclusion JR is a troll based on his past posts

Errors in this post include:

He states we will "again"be "stuck" with bad recruits, when in fact Bennetts strength has been recruiting given our record and our self imposed restictive b.s. We have not been stuck with anything - and are in fact lucky to have gotten the strong classes we have achieved in the last two years. They hit the fleld for the first time in any meaningful way this year.

He claims our JUCO's could not even help a winless team, when in fact they have not even hit the field for us yet.

He is either ignorant about where we are in our rebuilding, or he is a troll. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt by labeling him a troll.

I am not a sunshiner, but I am also not a pessimist - If you really examine where we are with this team, have half a brain, and you really are an SMU fan, then you are opptimistic not pessimistic. Our biggest issues are bad scheduling (for a rebuilding team) and becoming a more transfer friendly school. Both are changing but it can't happen soon enough.

Far from Bennetts last year, it will three to four wins this year and 6-7 in 05.
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Postby DallasDiehard » Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:46 am

gostangs wrote:.... Far from Bennetts last year, it will three to four wins this year and 6-7 in 05.

I'll say 2 or 3 wins this year (I'll be ecstatic with four, and Coach Bennett would earn some WAC Coach of the Year votes -- considering where we were a year ago -- if we do win four). And 6 is a reasonable goal for next year.
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Postby jtstang » Fri Jul 09, 2004 10:10 am

gostangs wrote:JT - I am not a freaking child (whatever that is) and FYI you sound a bit immature when you throw that out as a response. I have come to the conclusion JR is a troll based on his past posts

Errors in this post include:

He states we will "again"be "stuck" with bad recruits, when in fact Bennetts strength has been recruiting given our record and our self imposed restictive b.s. We have not been stuck with anything - and are in fact lucky to have gotten the strong classes we have achieved in the last two years. They hit the fleld for the first time in any meaningful way this year.

He claims our JUCO's could not even help a winless team, when in fact they have not even hit the field for us yet.

He is either ignorant about where we are in our rebuilding, or he is a troll. I am giving him the benefit of the doubt by labeling him a troll.

I am not a sunshiner, but I am also not a pessimist - If you really examine where we are with this team, have half a brain, and you really are an SMU fan, then you are opptimistic not pessimistic. Our biggest issues are bad scheduling (for a rebuilding team) and becoming a more transfer friendly school. Both are changing but it can't happen soon enough.

Far from Bennetts last year, it will three to four wins this year and 6-7 in 05.

Well, I guess we can add lack of reading comprehension to your growing list of sunshine skills. His point about recruiting did not mention "bad recruits" but said we will be picking among the leftovers once again after all the competing schools decide they don't want them or run out of scholarships. That appears to be accurate at this point in the recruiting process. He says nothing of JUCOs not helping a winless team, just that they cannot break the starting lineup of one. The remains to be seen, but Phillips is the incumbent and should start at QB, and if so that makes him right on two of the transfers right there. I suspect the TE transfer may get a starting nod, but who knows.

Please give details on the changes underway to become a more "transfer friendly school" since I have not yet heard about those.

You talk optomist or pessimist, but you lose sight of the third option--realist. You can be one and still be a fan of your alma mater. It is clear to me that you likely possess half a brain, so use it next time when you are criticizing other's posts.
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Postby PK » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:14 pm

jtstang wrote: He says nothing of JUCOs not helping a winless team, just that they cannot break the starting lineup of one. The (sic) remains to be seen, but Phillips is the incumbent and should start at QB, and if so that makes him right on two of the transfers right there. I suspect the TE transfer may get a starting nod, but who knows.


I'm not sure the intent was necessarily to get two JUCO's that would be starters without competing. When it is all said and done one of them could very well be the starter...but more importantly we need depth at every position including QB and that is what we have now.
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Postby jtstang » Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:30 pm

I don't mean to comment on intent, PK. I just mean Phillips performed well enough last year under adverse circumstances that the ball should be his come opening game. If that happens two JUCO's will be behind him and the original poster will be accurate about not making 1st team. The guy who called me immature misread or did not understand the original post. I agree with you re: depth, but quality depth is what is needed.
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Postby Mickey » Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:31 pm

Hoss- We had about 4 to 5 early commitments the last 2 years. Last years early commits were Chase, Henderson, McKinney, and Lindley.
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Postby PK » Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:18 am

jtstang wrote:I agree with you re: depth, but quality depth is what is needed.


Are you saying that if Phillips remains the starter, then the two JUCO QB's are not quality depth? That would then apply to every football team in the nation...if your not the starter then you're not quality? Basically JR's comment was pure bull sh*t, especially since the competetion for starter is not over. Unfortunately, there is only one starter and he should be the best person available at the time and not just because he did a good job in a difficult situation last year, and if by the time the first game gets here one of the JUCO's beats Phillips out of the starting position, so be it...and if not, we will at least have two EXPERIENCED QB's as backups, which we really haven't had the last two years.
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Postby jtstang » Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:32 pm

His post was more of a lament of the state of the program and was definitely not BS. I was not implyinhg the Juco guys won't be quality backups, I don't know anything about them. They may win the backup Heisman for all I know. My point about quality is that we had backups at every position last year and went 0-12. Geez, PK, lighten up, its Saturday for godsake.
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Postby PK » Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:51 pm

JR's comment was "...these JUCO players cannot even make the first team on a winless team." It is BS because the competition isn't over yet. Let's see where we are after two-a-days. Since it is Saturday, I will leave it that. Now, you lighten up and go find some "sunshine" for your life...try next door. :)
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Postby GoRedGoBlue » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:46 pm

jtstang wrote:His post was more of a lament of the state of the program and was definitely not BS. I was not implyinhg the Juco guys won't be quality backups, I don't know anything about them. They may win the backup Heisman for all I know. My point about quality is that we had backups at every position last year and went 0-12. Geez, PK, lighten up, its Saturday for godsake.


We went 0-12 with very few upperclassmen as starters. The backups were FR or RS-FR mostly.

Not making excuses, but there is some rational thought that they too should be better as well, plus Phillips was a true FR, reasonably recruited, that re-won his job.
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Postby gostangs » Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:20 am

look - jt - if you must find something to be negative about in order to fulfill yourself there are plenty of things to choose from - JR's post was BS becuase it was incorrect in criticising our track record under Bennett on early recruits, and it also referencing JUCO's that "have not made the starting line up" when in fact they just signed this Spring. His post was wrong. If he had just said - "gee if we go 0 fer the season again this year it will be Bennett's last year", now that would be accurate. Now maybe we can end this little cyberspat, because it is really boring.
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Postby Mustangs35SMU » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:13 am

Plain and Simple. If we dont win a game (actually if we only win 1 or 2 also) then say good by to Phil...
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Postby jtstang » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:51 am

gostangs wrote:Now maybe we can end this little cyberspat, because it is really boring.

Okay, but just one more thing you failed to answer from before. Since you are in the know about the changes in the works to make SMU a more "transfer friendly school" how about detailing those efforts for us here. I'm not aware of what you are talking about, but admittedly I do not follow the inner workings like some on this board.
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