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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby malonish » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:43 pm

PerunaPunch wrote:GBS stuff, 100 in 12.8 million


https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/conce ... drome.html
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https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination ... und%20rate.

How common is GBS, and how common is it after people are vaccinated for seasonal influenza?
GBS is rare. Each year, about 3,000 to 6,000 people in the United States develop GBS whether or not they received a vaccination – that’s 1 to 2 people out of every 100,000 people. This is referred to as the background rate.

100 out of 12,800,000 => 1 out of 128,000

So that's not out of the norm of the background rate. Get vaccinated.
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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby malonish » Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:46 pm

ponyboy wrote:Your main point is well taken, except for the fact that science… isn’t. Do I think the vaccine is effective? Would it not be an act of love and compassion to get it? Probably, and therefore probably. I’ll think it over and, most importantly, pray about it.


I honestly can't tell what you're saying with your first line. It is reported that over 99% of new cases are unvaccinated folks. God sent you doctors and vaccines so that you could be with your family longer.
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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby ponyboy » Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:22 pm

Science isn’t this rock-solid thing you imagine it to be. Read the article.
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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby PNW_Stang » Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:49 pm

Anyone know how many healthy men under 25 have died in Texas from covid? I am pretty sure only like a thousand had died under 40, but that may have changed and be larger now.
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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby ponyboy » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:21 pm

The answer is much closer to zero than one thousand for otherwise healthy males under 25. I mean, to put it into perspective, five months ago only 80 people total (males or females) under 25 had died in Texas. And that death toll was predominantly those with pre-existing conditions.
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Cole Beasley making news

Postby geezerdonk » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:34 pm

At least Cole's honest about it - unlike the media darling weasel Lebron James who refuses to say whether or not he has had the vaccine.
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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby BUS » Wed Jul 14, 2021 3:55 pm

To add to the discussion.
At a business lunch today of about 15 people. We found out that your life insurance can be cancelled or not paid for taking a non FDA authorized vaccination. Even given the emrgency clause that this shot is issued by.
You need to check with your insurance company... Not the health insurance but Life ins.
Just educate yourself.
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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby HubbaHubba » Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:52 pm

This is the kind of intentionally false information which serves to cause more deaths. I'm sorry you fell for it.

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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby BUS » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:05 pm

This is not my statement but one from an insurance agent. He ran into it as he was preparing a presentation for a client to show competitive products.

Sticky wicket. Maybe.

Other discussion took place. Educate yourself. Just call you life insurance company and be sure.
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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby HubbaHubba » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:11 pm

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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby peruna81 » Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:25 pm

I truly believe this has eclipsed the "Hamburger Wars" thread in all facets. A few years from now folks will reminisce about the "Beasley Covid thread" and wax nostalgic...

On a different note, Do you guys think we'll beat TCU?
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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby Charleston Pony » Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:09 am

People believe what they want to believe, or I should say they are more susceptible to believing false information that is more consistent with their views. As someone who retired from a career managing insurance claims with a focus on litigation, most people would be surprised to know that (typically after a policy has been in force for at least 2 years), most life insurance policies will pay out even after the policyholder commits suicide. Insurance contracts are complicated and I agree it's a good idea to check with your agent with any questions you might have, but don't be surprised if your agent doesn't know the details of what he/she is selling. That's not uncommon and it's why some courts around the country have expanded what an insurance contract must provide based on the reasonable expectations of the consumer after his/her agent misrepresents what the policy covers. Texas had not adopted that view, at least it hadn't when I left the state years ago.

P.S. No way this thread will live as long as the burger wars thread and while I won't make any prediction, I sure hope we can beat the toads this year!
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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby Mustangs_Maroons » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:33 am

People should see what other countries are doing. Look at France...(French rush to get vaccinated after president's warning). We are nowhere near done with this pandemic.

https://apnews.com/article/europe-busin ... 9d83b773ad

PARIS (AP) — More than 1 million people in France made vaccine appointments in less than a day, according to figures released Tuesday, after the president cranked up pressure on everyone to get vaccinated to save the summer vacation season and the French economy.

Some bristled at President Emmanuel Macron’s admonition to “get vaccinated!” immediately, but many people signed up for shots, accepting that getting injected was the only way to return to some semblance of pre-pandemic life.

French government spokesman Gabriel Attal, noting the latest virus surges from South Africa to South Korea, and vaccine shortages in many poorer countries, appealed to his compatriots Tuesday to “look at what’s happening in the world.”

Macron also announced that special COVID-19 passes will be required starting in early August to enter restaurants and shopping malls and to get on trains and planes. The announcement raised questions and worries among foreign tourists and as residents of France planning vacations.

An app that centralizes France’s vaccine appointments, Doctolib, said Tuesday that 1.3 million people signed up for injections after Macron gave a televised address Monday night. It was a daily record since France rolled out coronavirus vaccines in December. People under age 35 made up most of the new appointments, Doctolib said.

Macron said vaccination would be obligatory for all health care workers by Sept. 15, and he held out the possibility of extending the requirement to others. Around 41% of the French population has been fully vaccinated, though the pace of shots being delivered has waned as summer vacations approached.

Government spokesman Attal insisted the vaccine mandate wasn’t meant to “stigmatize” reluctant health workers but to limit risks to the vulnerable populations they care for.

Some residents said the government’s vaccine push makes them feel safer. At a vaccine center Tuesday in Versailles, finance worker Thibault Razafinarivo, 26, said, “I have a newborn baby at home, and we don’t want to take any risks.” A 23-year-old who works in radiology said she wants to protect her family and her patients.

Others, though, expressed frustration at the idea of mandatory vaccines or needing passes to go to a café.

“I’m getting vaccinated because I want to have a social life and go on holidays,” law student Marius Chavenon, 22, said, adding: “I don’t think vaccination should be compulsory. We live in France, we should be able to do what we want.”

In Paris, nurse Solene Manable said, “There are many health workers who don’t want to get vaccinated because we don’t know much about the vaccines.” But she said she understood “many people who are getting vaccinated to be able to go back to restaurants,...to be able to have a normal life again.”

Some people said they’re now getting vaccinated because Macron also announced that France will start charging money for some virus tests, which up to now have all been free for anyone in French territory.

To get the COVID pass that will soon be required in all restaurants, people must have proof of vaccination or recent virus infection, or a negative test from the last 48 hours.

Restaurant and bar unions demanded a delay for the passes, and government officials were meeting with industry representatives Tuesday. Restaurant workers expressed concern with enforcing the requirement and fear it could scare customers away after all French eating establishments stayed shuttered for nine months from the pandemic’s onset.

Health Minister Olivier Veran defended the new rule, saying, “The question is: It’s lockdown or the health pass.”

He also welcomed the renewed vaccine interest, saying on BFM television Tuesday: “That’s thousands of lives saved.”

More than 111,000 people with the virus have died in France.

Nicolas Garriga in Paris contributed.

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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby ponyboy » Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:44 am

Not downplaying the seriousness of covid, but I do think it’s helpful to remember that:

1.93% of deaths are people 55 years old and up. And the overwhelming majority of those have pre-existing conditions.

2. 0.2% were younger than 25. (Again, the vast majority with comorbidities).

3. In the most susceptible age category, 85 and older, covid accounts for only 13.3% of deaths.

Source: CDC, https://datavisualizations.heritage.org ... hs-by-age/
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Re: Cole Beasley making news

Postby Dukie » Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:29 am

ponyboy wrote:Not downplaying the seriousness of covid, but I do think it’s helpful to remember that:

1.93% of deaths are people 55 years old and up. And the overwhelming majority of those have pre-existing conditions.

2. 0.2% were younger than 25. (Again, the vast majority with comorbidities).

3. In the most susceptible age category, 85 and older, covid accounts for only 13.3% of deaths.

Source: CDC, https://datavisualizations.heritage.org ... hs-by-age/

You are doing nothing *but* downplaying the seriousness of COVID.
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