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Postby Corso » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:20 pm

You wrote this:

".... Bennett has Dallas ties and maybe signed two kids in the area this year. ..."

My contention was that he signed a lot more Dallas-area kids. I'll concede that Stephenville and Scurry-Rosser might be "stretches" in the definition of area schools, but those others absolutely are area schools.
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:58 pm

mrydel wrote:Like it or not, Jim Copeland has retired.resigned, quit, left the building, whatever, under pressure. No way he retires at this time had we had Tulsa or UCFs year, and/or a sterling recruiting crop of 3 and 4 star kids. The pressure may very well be self imposed, but it is painfully aware that he is going because the performance has not yet reached a level that is expected. For that reason and for that reason alone, you do not under any circumstance hire from within the office. That is a blatant statement that things are progressing just fine and we want to continue in the same fashion.

If Secules the best for the job? Maybe, but we had not better find out. I want a new blood, fresh start, go-getting, in the face of the Board telling them what we need to succeed, type of AD.

I am a Bennett backer, but if he were to go tomorrow, I certainly do not want to replace him with anyone off of the current staff based on our past few years of performance. Give me some 10-1 or 9-2 or even 8-3 seasons in succession and then if he goes, advancement from within may be ok.

We can not, must not and had better not retain the status quo in the position of AD. Now is the time to get back on the map. Think big, and think positive. It does not have to be a big name, although I think that could help, but it must be a proven commodity.


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Postby jtstang » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:00 pm

mrydel wrote:We can not, must not and had better not retain the status quo in the position of AD. Now is the time to get back on the map. Think big, and think positive. It does not have to be a big name, although I think that could help, but it must be a proven commodity.

Only one man fits this bill: H. Ross Perot (Sr. not Jr.). Get him in here.
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Postby KnuckleStang » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:03 pm

"Dadgum it! 13,000 for homecomin'? Now, that's just SAD, see..."
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Postby PK » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:09 pm

"Just need to pop the hood and do a little tinkering under there, see..." :lol:
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Postby McClown27 » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:16 pm

mrydel wrote:We can not, must not and had better not retain the status quo in the position of AD. Now is the time to get back on the map. Think big, and think positive. It does not have to be a big name, although I think that could help, but it must be a proven commodity.


A proven commodity at the DI level is not gonna come here. I would be with you if that was possible.

Otherwise, some folks over at TCU thought it was a mistake when they hired from within, and didn't go after a "proven commodity." I think Patterson has turned out okay.
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Postby SMUstang » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:16 pm

KnuckleStang wrote:"Dadgum it! 13,000 for homecomin'? Now, that's just SAD, see..."


Where did that come from? Not saying it is not right, but where did it come from?
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Postby abezontar » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:30 pm

But did tcu hire either of the two athletic directors they've had during Copeland's tenure (that I remember) from within?
It is one thing to hire someone from within when you have a winning, relatively proven program, which tcu was to some degree when Fran left, but we are not at that level no matter how much we delude ourselves about our record last year. We could have been 7-4 and we are just about to break out, but we just as easily could have been 3-8 and exactly where we were the previous year. And there it is no sure thing that we won't get some bad breaks next year and appear to take a step back.
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Postby SoCal_Pony » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:32 pm

PK wrote:"Just need to pop the hood and do a little tinkering under there, see..." :lol:


Yep PK...just a little tinkering and she'll be good as new



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McClown...You are done here

Postby smupony » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:42 pm

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Your list includes one player from Dallas, and one from Highland Park. What is your point?[/quote]

McClown...Your ranting has gone on long enough. The point you made was local ties. You don't consider a kid from Southlake or Carrollton local? Dallas is part of a vast metroplex. Was D. Martin a long distance find by our far reaching coaching staff? Allen, TX is 20 miles away.

You have lost any and all credibility with many posters here. Any discussion created from your ridiculous "home grown" responses has been picked apart and your feeble brain desperately trys to find a silver lining to support your case.

Yes, you can take one word from this response and spin it to work in your favor, but at the end of the day, you have done nothing but make your "Hero Candidate" look like an idiot by association. You possibly have made him less of a candidate in some posters eyes.

How are you connected to Secules? Family friend, wife, co-worker, agent, jock sniffer. Are you one of those people that seeks him out at events and drools over the old football stories. Copeland and Secules are not that different.

If you can't tell, I support a national search and a well qualified and experienced AD. Give me someone young, hungry, and intergetic. When Bennett interviewed, he accepted the job with conditions. These conditions concentrated on more acedemic freedom and more transfer credits (a large self imposed vice by SMU). Have we not seen at least some improvement?

Bennett was an up and coming coach who had a positive resume, but questionable opportunity at the time. Do you think there are ADs or highly qualified associate ADs who fit that same build (outside of SMU)? I would think so.

Get someone who will challenge the system. We have had no challenege or advanced thinking under the old system. Do you really think the same brain trust will bring new and innovative ideas? (these questions are rehtoricle McClown because the answers should be obvious).

The major problems of this administration comes down to funding and modeling. Modeling can be changed by the carefull appropriation of time and money. With the little money the athletic department has, what can they do? Right? Who's job is it to get more donors excited about SMU Athletics and request more money from the board? That would be your AD brain trust.

The "do not rock the boat" mentality in the Athletic Department has gone far enough.

We all complain that the athletic department doesn't do anything. Then the funding becomes the fall guy. Who's job is it to knock on doors, work the media, and make healines? The AD...

Give me an up and coming guy that has all of the tools and the gusto. Have him challege our old tired ways of running an athletic department and buck the system. Make some headlines and show that he truely cares.

Copeland helped fund raise and build Ford Stadium and we are all proud of that. Heck, I'll even give them credit for it. It was built on two donors...Where are the rest of our illustrious alumni?

New blood and some swagger is needed in this position. I fear the day we settle on being mediocre and predictable. I think we have almost met this description. Now is the time to move in a new direction.
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Postby mrydel » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:45 pm

McClown27 wrote:
mrydel wrote:We can not, must not and had better not retain the status quo in the position of AD. Now is the time to get back on the map. Think big, and think positive. It does not have to be a big name, although I think that could help, but it must be a proven commodity.


A proven commodity at the DI level is not gonna come here. I would be with you if that was possible.

Otherwise, some folks over at TCU thought it was a mistake when they hired from within, and didn't go after a "proven commodity." I think Patterson has turned out okay.


I never said proven D1, I said proven commodity. I still say, although an extreme stretch that if I could blink my eyes and make it happen I would convince Jimmy Johnson. That is the type person we need to be looking for. Type A personality that can sell it all to anyone.

I have a feeling we will end up with someone that none of us are very familiar with but my optimism says he will be a winner. I think the search committee knows the pick is very important. My goodness, if I can see that surely they can see that also.
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Postby PK » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:25 pm

SMUstang wrote:
KnuckleStang wrote:"Dadgum it! 13,000 for homecomin'? Now, that's just SAD, see..."


Where did that come from? Not saying it is not right, but where did it come from?
That's just a take off on what ole H. Ross Perot might say. Similar to what I posted...if you remember when he ran for prez, he had all sorts of down home sayings...see.
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Postby PK » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:27 pm

abezontar wrote:But did tcu hire either of the two athletic directors they've had during Copeland's tenure (that I remember) from within?
It is one thing to hire someone from within when you have a winning, relatively proven program, which tcu was to some degree when Fran left, but we are not at that level no matter how much we delude ourselves about our record last year. We could have been 7-4 and we are just about to break out, but we just as easily could have been 3-8 and exactly where we were the previous year. And there it is no sure thing that we won't get some bad breaks next year and appear to take a step back.
Didn't their latest AD come from a D1-AA school...Texas State?
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Postby SMU Football Blog » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:39 pm

Since the demise of the SWC, which I believe is the relevant time period, TCU's hired two AD's. The first was the AD at the U. of Miami (Ohio) who left TCU for South Carolina. The current AD was the commissioner of the Southern Conference (I-AA), not a school; before that, he had been the AD at Wofford.
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Postby PK » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:58 pm

Well...I was close, but no cigar.
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