AD ???

[mrydel]

Do you think it is a good idea to introduce him as Dallas is flooding?

[MrMustang1965]

Do you think it is a good idea to introduce him as Dallas is flooding?

...should make him feel right at home!

[SMU Football Blog]

i dont want an empty suit either, but I dont think you can so easily conclude that about Dickson. I admit, I like Hartzell alot on paper. Thing is, how comparable is Northern Iowa to SMU?? At least Dickson knows what he is dealing with and its not like he has failed at Tulane. They have done some decent things. Their football coach is the same one who went 12-0 a few years ago, so he must not be a bad coach. I submit to you that Hartzell will have no idea what he is dealing with and where to begin at SMU. I bet they have an Agriculture major, Kinesology and all sorts of athlete friendly programs at UNI. So what, we dont need Hartzell to identify what we need. We need someone who can articulate what other private schools have and what they are doing. Remember, SMU is trying to justify to its facultly senate what other like minded instituations are doing athletic wise, not what UNI is doing. Dickson, if the right guy, could hit the ground running.

Hey, if he picked that coach that went 12-0, I'd be fine, but he didn't. Anybody can say, "Like that Liberty Bowl win and the undefeated season; I think we'll keep you around."

I am sorry, but I am not willing to concede anything on Hartzell. Yes, UNI is public, but Hartzell was also the AD at Bucknell, which is private. Bucknell, btw, has a lower acceptance rate than SMU and a higher yield. Hartzell also hired the only coach that ever won a Patriot League title for Bucknell.

The athlete-friendly major is BS and everyone with a clue knows it. The issue regarding the curriculum is transferrable hours. Always has been and always will be. There are plenty of majors for athletes.

Hartzell would know plenty. He knows how to find coaches that win games. He knows how to give those coaches what they need to win. He's raised money, he's built buildings, he's sold tickets. It really is too bad that that is not good enough for SMU. Instead people insist on getting someone from a school we respect, even if that means hiring someone that has never hired a football coach and struck out on their last BB coaching hire.

[Hoop Fan]

man I dont know, maybe its just my perception, but Dickson has always seemed pretty ambitous to me. Within the framework of Tulane, that is saying something. An 'ambitious', wet behind the ears young buck is not going to come in here and get the behind the scene changes made we need. Its going to take a bit of a salesmen and a statesmen rolled up into one. Arent we past thinking we are just gonna pick some coach with the midas touch?

[jtstang]

Read his bio linked on the Blogster's site. He's a Copeland clone. Money first, facilities second, and performance last. Now, there's nothing wrong with the first two, but that's been Copeland's MO for the last 10 years. And because everybody knows that donating money and buildings does not equate to wins at SMU, why would they give to the new guy promising the same things as Copeland? What we need is a guy who will focus on the third one, and I'm just not seeing it in this guy.

Unfortunately, I cannot offer a better candidate. Promoting from within should not be an option, though.

[McClown27]

Arent we past thinking we are just gonna pick some coach with the midas touch?

A couple of stellar hires in the money sports would do a lot. I am wholeheartedly with Blog on that one.

[Hoop Fan]

i dont want an empty suit either, but I dont think you can so easily conclude that about Dickson. I admit, I like Hartzell alot on paper. Thing is, how comparable is Northern Iowa to SMU?? At least Dickson knows what he is dealing with and its not like he has failed at Tulane. They have done some decent things. Their football coach is the same one who went 12-0 a few years ago, so he must not be a bad coach. I submit to you that Hartzell will have no idea what he is dealing with and where to begin at SMU. I bet they have an Agriculture major, Kinesology and all sorts of athlete friendly programs at UNI. So what, we dont need Hartzell to identify what we need. We need someone who can articulate what other private schools have and what they are doing. Remember, SMU is trying to justify to its facultly senate what other like minded instituations are doing athletic wise, not what UNI is doing. Dickson, if the right guy, could hit the ground running.

Hey, if he picked that coach that went 12-0, I'd be fine, but he didn't. Anybody can say, "Like that Liberty Bowl win and the undefeated season; I think we'll keep you around."

I am sorry, but I am not willing to concede anything on Hartzell. Yes, UNI is public, but Hartzell was also the AD at Bucknell, which is private. Bucknell, btw, has a lower acceptance rate than SMU and a higher yield. Hartzell also hired the only coach that ever won a Patriot League title for Bucknell.

The athlete-friendly major is BS and everyone with a clue knows it. The issue regarding the curriculum is transferrable hours. Always has been and always will be. There are plenty of majors for athletes.

Hartzell would know plenty. He knows how to find coaches that win games. He knows how to give those coaches what they need to win. He's raised money, he's built buildings, he's sold tickets. It really is too bad that that is not good enough for SMU. Instead people insist on getting someone from a school we respect, even if that means hiring someone that has never hired a football coach and struck out on their last BB coaching hire.

do you always have to insult somebody to express your opinion? I think Hartzell might be a good choice, but by the same token that doesnt make Dickson a bad choice now does it? Hartzell might have some stengths, Dickson has other strenghts. Also, before you condemn Dickson, didnt he hire Tubby Smith? Does he not get credit for that one? How bout some balance? And sometimes not firing somebody does represent a good decision.

[SMU Football Blog]

Dickson at Washington State:

Football: Went to the rose bowl in 1997. Did he hire that coach (Mike Price)? No.

Basketball: Kelvin Sampson was the coach! Bet he left right after Dickson got there. Dickson hired Kevin Eastman who took Samson's returning Big Dance team and went to the nit (twice) and never the postseasona again, fired after going 69-78. Dickson then hired Paul Graham who went 31-79. Someone else had to clean up that mess.

Copeland 2.0

[jtstang]

I also heard that Bucknell just recently started funding athletic scholarships through their booster club, in the last three years or so. They are up to 8 now for men's hoops, although they may not all be full scholarships. An AD who can get some results at a school like that cannot be all bad....

[Hoop Fan]

Read his bio linked on the Blogster's site. He's a Copeland clone. Money first, facilities second, and performance last. Now, there's nothing wrong with the first two, but that's been Copeland's MO for the last 10 years. And because everybody knows that donating money and buildings does not equate to wins at SMU, why would they give to the new guy promising the same things as Copeland? What we need is a guy who will focus on the third one, and I'm just not seeing it in this guy.

Unfortunately, I cannot offer a better candidate. Promoting from within should not be an option, though.

maybe, but I think its overly simplistic to say he is a copeland clone. The difference is Dickson knows what the challenges are and what is expected coming in. Copeland took 2 years to figure it out. Also, take a look at the athletes Tulane has fielded compared to ours. Whatever they are doing in that regard, I'd like to know and have at SMU.

[Stallion]

Well he ain't exactly a Copeland clone with regard to the respect he has within the community. If Copeland were to take a different job most on here would have erupted in jubilation-but the great majority of Tulane fans seem to be genuinely upset that he might leave.

[jtstang]

The athlete-friendly major is BS and everyone with a clue knows it. The issue regarding the curriculum is transferrable hours. Always has been and always will be. There are plenty of majors for athletes.

Well, I'll just disagree with that because it oversimplifies the problem. In fact, changing some majors would probably do wonders for both issues.

BTW, Hoop Fan, the coach that went 12-0 a few years back was a Bowden, Tommy I think, and is long gone from Tulane.

[Hoop Fan]

Dickson at Washington State:

Football: Went to the rose bowl in 1997. Did he hire that coach (Mike Price)? No.

Basketball: Kelvin Sampson was the coach! Bet he left right after Dickson got there. Dickson hired Kevin Eastman who took Samson's returning Big Dance team and went to the nit (twice) and never the postseasona again, fired after going 69-78. Dickson then hired Paul Graham who went 31-79. Someone else had to clean up that mess.

Copeland 2.0

those are negatives I would agree, I assume thats the whole story? Still, I think we have two good coaches who are good fits for SMU. We need a leader who can get them the tools that they need to succeed. Hartzell might be good, Dickson might be good too. If we were looking for a football coach right now, I'd be more worried.

[SMU Football Blog]

do you always have to insult somebody to express your opinion? I think Hartzell might be a good choice, but by the same token that doesnt make Dickson a bad choice now does it? Hartzell might have some stengths, Dickson has other strenghts. Also, before you condemn Dickson, didnt he hire Tubby Smith? Does he not get credit for that one? How bout some balance? And sometimes not firing somebody does represent a good decision.

I am not Stallion, I don't make it a rule to insult somebody in every post. I don't see where I insulted anybody in any post on this thread, except maybe Dickson. Dickson is not my choice and I am going to say so while I have the opportunity.

And I did point out he hired Tubby Smith ...in 1991. I will do you one better, he didn't fire Mike Price after three sub-.500 seasons after going to the rose bowl; at some point that was a good decision. But if you want to talk about picking coaches, with the exception of Tubby Smith, he has done a pretty poor job.

[Stallion]

I will disagree with SMUFootballBlogger too-its more than just transferrable hours. Actually, the way that most PRIVATE schools like Rice and Tulane protect their athletes is through the curriculm. All schools in Texas in fact do-as was pointed out in the Faculty notes. Hey, perhaps, Dickson could offer some insight on how Tulane protects its players-because I KNOW a very high percentage of them are in one school.-remember reading it in the McKimsey study done by Tulane.