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Postby LonghornFan68 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:32 am

ALEX LIFESON wrote:OH YEAH!!!!!!! Looks like we have our first boxing match lined up at the Special Delivery Arena! What time can we pencil you two fellas in? I got a feeling, this one would draw a good crowd! :wink:


The question being: which one gets an eye scratched out first? Which one will forfeit from a broken nail?
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Postby PK » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:41 am

jtstang wrote:...I have a soft spot for the longhorns since they were my adopted "good team" from a couple years ago.
Isn't that about the time you started dating that sweet, good looking, longhorn gal you married???? Hmmmm, I don't think that is a coincident. :wink:
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Postby jtstang » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:18 pm

Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:First you claim/pretend that SMU is no different than the Texas Longhorns as far as criminals/thugs/arrests, and now you imply "our philosophy"(graduating non-thugs) unlike Texas has not worked over the last twenty years. So which is it? Are you just lying when you claim the criminal behaviors are the same or is SMU different?....Because according to you SMU has the same thug factor as the Texas Longhorns.

Good gosh, you're dense. First, I never made the claim that the "thug factor" was the same at UT and SMU, so if anybody is lying it's you (pants on fire!). All I ever said is that there are "thugs" (your word, not mine) at both schools, since your definition of thug seems to be anybody that gets accused of a crime. That is the undeniable truth (see Willis and the taser twins for SMU examples). The verdict--the records show that their thugs are better athletes than our thugs.

Second, if you thought I was implying something when I said our philosophy of graduating "non-thugs" is not working, please allow me to clairify. IT IS A FACT that the philosophy of graduating players first and foremost (or whatever the philosphy is), employed by SMU since its return from the death peanlty, is not working to produce a winning football program. I am sorry you merely thought I was making an implication.

In your fantasy world, the definition of thug is anybody that is accused of a crime that doesn't play for SMU, but in reality that dog won't hunt.
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Postby jtstang » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:19 pm

PK wrote:
jtstang wrote:...I have a soft spot for the longhorns since they were my adopted "good team" from a couple years ago.
Isn't that about the time you started dating that sweet, good looking, longhorn gal you married???? Hmmmm, I don't think that is a coincident. :wink:

Pretty close, PK. A couple of years before that really, it took me some time to warm up to the 'horns, but it helps keep the peace at home.
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Postby jtstang » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:28 pm

LonghornFan68 wrote:
ALEX LIFESON wrote:OH YEAH!!!!!!! Looks like we have our first boxing match lined up at the Special Delivery Arena! What time can we pencil you two fellas in? I got a feeling, this one would draw a good crowd! :wink:


The question being: which one gets an eye scratched out first? Which one will forfeit from a broken nail?

I really better sit this one out. I haven't been in a fight since a girl beat me up in the third grade.
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Postby mrydel » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:39 pm

jtstang wrote:
LonghornFan68 wrote:
ALEX LIFESON wrote:OH YEAH!!!!!!! Looks like we have our first boxing match lined up at the Special Delivery Arena! What time can we pencil you two fellas in? I got a feeling, this one would draw a good crowd! :wink:


The question being: which one gets an eye scratched out first? Which one will forfeit from a broken nail?

I really better sit this one out. I haven't been in a fight since a girl beat me up in the third grade.


I lost money on that one. I really thought you could take her. I gave you the advantage since she was giving up 2 grade levels.
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Postby 2112 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:12 pm

alice lifeson spouted .......
(OH YEAH!!!!!!! Looks like we have our first boxing match lined up at the Special Delivery Arena! What time can we pencil you two fellas in? I got a feeling, this one would draw a good crowd! )


now see jtsteer, thats funny! i haven't seen insane pony posse, but if he can't take out jtsteer....i want first crack at him.
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Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:49 pm

jtstang today:
I never made the claim that the "thug factor" was the same at UT and SMU"

Maybe not....but you strongly imply that very thing just about every time another one of your Longhorn Thugs is arrested....like these 3 in the last fricking week!

you try to make arrests for breaking into homes, pointing guns at people, arrested with pounds of weed and illegal weapons analogous with some frat party fight where no one was arrested or charged.

jtstang in previous posts:


#1. "while wholly ignoring similar activities of our own players")

#2. "while overlooking the same warts at SMU" (July 31, 2007)

#3. their thugs are better athletes than our thugs.

"All I ever said is that there are "thugs" at both schools"

Is that analogy kind of like saying Charles Manson and a jaywalker are both lawbreakers?

"since your definition of thug seems to be anybody that gets accused of a crime"

No...more like players found with pounds of weed in their car
players found by police with illegal weapons in their car
warrants for players pointing guns at people
players arrested breaking into vehicles
players breaking in an apartment/criminal trespassing
players pleady guilty to aggravated assault causing serious bodily injury
ect...ect.....ect......
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Postby jtstang » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:00 pm

What about guys who get in fights with cops? Thug or not thug?

What about guys who bash on their friends because they happen to be gay? Thug or not thug?

Just trying to see where you draw the line.
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Postby 2112 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:40 pm

you only have these isolated situations to KEEP referring to, and if you remember, it came out that demyron's alcohol test were negative. but just keep on hammering your family.
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Postby Insane_Pony_Posse » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:26 pm

re: "Just trying to see where you draw the line."

jtstang...maybe we should let the
Dallas Morning News decide where to "draw the line"
and when they run a front page article in the Sports Section
on SMU having multiple disgraceful arrest/thug records in
a such a short period then we'll know who is right. Deal?


From Todays Dallas Morning News: August 3, 2007

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Friday, August 3, 2007
By CHIP BROWN / The Dallas Morning News
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AUSTIN –
For the fifth time in the last two months, a Texas football player is being accused of a crime
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Highly recruited UT freshman defensive tackle Andre Jones was charged Thursday with the same aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon that resulted in charges being filed against former Texas safety Robert Joseph on Saturday.

Jones turned himself in shortly before noon Friday. Bond was set at $40,000.

Jones, a Parade All-American who turns 18 today, graduated early from El Paso Andress to enroll at Texas in January and go through spring drills. He couldn't be reached for comment. It wasn't immediately clear who would represent him in the case.


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Andre Jones "We're in complete shock, and I think the folks at Texas are, too," said Andress defensive coordinator Dusty Meitler, who coached Jones in high school. "Andre was a captain on our team and a leader. He went to class around the clock to graduate early.

"His mother is a truck driver, and he didn't come from much. He really wanted to make a life for himself. So this is a total shock."

Texas football spokesman John Bianco said school officials were aware of an arrest warrant for Jones and were trying to gather more information before making any public statement.

Joseph, 19, was dismissed from the Texas team and announced plans to transfer after being charged with two felony counts of burglary of a vehicle last month. He remains in the Travis County Jail on $25,000 bond after being arrested last Friday and charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon.

Austin attorney Jamie Balagia, who is representing Joseph, said, "I think Robert will be all right once the whole story is told."

If convicted of the first-degree felony, both Jones and Joseph face five years to life in prison.

According to arrest warrants, Joseph and Jones entered an apartment in east Austin around 2:30 p.m. last Friday. Joseph allegedly pointed a gun at the occupants, including a 14-year-old boy. Jones repeated Joseph's demands and reached into his waistband for something chrome and acted as if it was a gun, according to the warrants.

The men allegedly stole cash, cellphones and gaming equipment. The occupants of the apartment were able to identify Jones in a silver Dodge pickup and get a partial plate number from the truck, according to the arrest records.

Jones (6-5, 295) went through spring drills and received positive reviews from senior defensive tackle Derek Lokey.

Last week, Lokey told reporters at Big 12 media days that Texas players had formed a leadership group to meet with younger players on the team to strengthen chemistry.

"Last year, I don't think the older guys on the team did as good a job as we should have getting to know the younger guys," Lokey said. "A lot of times the older guys move off campus and don't get to know the young guys as well. So we're trying to make sure we're all on the same page."

Texas isn't alone in off-the-field issues this summer. Maurice Purify, the leading receiver for Nebraska in 2006, received a one-game suspension after pleading no contest to criminal charges, including assault, last month.

The Missouri basketball team had a player shot in the ankle during a nightclub disturbance and another dismissed for allegedly hitting someone in the head with the handle of a gun. As a result, Missouri football coach Gary Pinkel has imposed a rule that none of his players can be in a nightclub or bar later than 9 p.m.

Oklahoma State sophomore linebacker Chris Collins faces a pretrial hearing Aug. 20 on charges he sexually assaulted a 12-year-old girl in 2004. Three OSU basketball players and a football player also have had brushes with the law this summer.

Oklahoma basketball coach Jeff Capel has dismissed two players from his team, one for a run-in with the law.

TEXAS TROUBLES
Over the last 15 months, seven Texas players have had run-ins with the law. In some cases, charges were dropped. Five times in the last two months a UT player has been accused of a crime. Here's a look:

May 2006: Sophomore running back Ramonce Taylor charged with possession of four pounds of marijuana. Sentenced to 60 days in jail. Taylor transferred to Texas College in Tyler, where he was academically ineligible. Declared for the NFL draft in 2007 and went undrafted.

Sept. 2006: Cornerback Tarell Brown, linebacker Tyrell Gatewood and former linebacker Aaron Harris charged with misdemeanor drug possession, and Brown charged with misdemeanor unlawful gun possession. Harris takes blame for the marijuana found when the three were pulled over by police. The drug charges against Brown and Gatewood were dropped. Gun charge against Brown remains.

March 2007: Tarell Brown charged with misdemeanor drug possession after being pulled over in a car driven by his cousin. Charges dropped against Brown when his cousin takes blame for the marijuana found in his car. Brown's lawyer provides documents saying Brown passed a drug test after his arrest.

June 1: Junior defensive end Henry Melton charged with driving while intoxicated.

June 9:
Sophomore safety Robert Joseph charged with two felony counts of burglary of a vehicle. Dismissed from the team and announced plans to transfer.

July 28: Joseph charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon in connection with a break-in on July 27.

July 28: Sophomore linebacker Sergio Kindle of Woodrow Wilson charged with driving while intoxicated.

Aug. 2: Highly recruited freshman defensive tackle Andre Jones charged with the same aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon (July 27) that resulted in charges against Joseph.
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Postby mrydel » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:31 pm

Now lets get back to the argument that the DMN always puts Texas on the front page and never writes about SMU.
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Postby 2112 » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:32 pm

one of the local stations said "with the ut p.r. machine keeping a tight lid on what hits the media, can you imagine what didn't slip through the cracks?"
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Postby jtstang » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:34 pm

Insane_Pony_Posse wrote:re: "Just trying to see where you draw the line."

jtstang...maybe we should let the
Dallas Morning News decide where to "draw the line"
and when they run a front page article in the Sports Section
on SMU having multiple disgraceful arrest/thug records in
a such a short period then we'll know who is right. Deal?


Is that because you can't make your own decisions? I want to know if YOU think SMU has any thugs, based on certain publicly acknowledged conduct. I don't have to ask you what the Morning News thinks, I can read it.
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Postby ponyte » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:35 pm

The criminal activities of players do not violate NCAA rules. All this means is that UT will have more scholarsips to offer this fall.
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