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Postby The Q » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:46 pm

Stallion wrote:MORON^

Yeah every other Coach that does that is a genuis but Bennett's an idiot.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, STALLION.

Seriously, man, change your name. Coach Bennett is history. Show a little class.

Whatever happened to that idea about banning names like that? I think it should be put into effect, before someone goes on an anti-Doherty, anti-Orsini, anti-Turner rampage.
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Postby westexSMU » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:05 pm

We lost the game. No Joy but.....there is no use continuing to pound Coach Bennett...he is gone.
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Postby Pony Soup » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:07 pm

While I am amused that the TO on a FG backfired on SMU (so typical), what do you want? He can't see the future and this certainly isnt where we lost the game...
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Postby westexSMU » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:10 pm

[quote="The Q"]

Whatever happened to that idea about banning names like that? I think it should be put into effect, before someone goes on an anti-Doherty, anti-Orsini, anti-Turner rampage.[/quote]..............Someone went into a anti-Turner rampage a few weels ago. If it wasn't for President Turner's leadership, we wouldn't have raised OVER 9 MILLION to get new Coaches and have a chance to rebuild our football program....HOW STUPID can someone be ???
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Postby mustangfan01 » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:43 pm

We were 1-11, in the third overtime of our final game of the year, on the road, with nothing to lose.



If the play goes for a TD -- Phil Bennett is lauded for having such cojones. But no, you Sunday morning quarterbacks think we should be conservative.


Like someone else on the board said, Phil wasn't about to kick the FG...the team wanted to go for the throat and we just fell short.


To answer your question since I am a senior from this team -- I am extremely happy with the decision to go for it and not kick the field goal. It's just a shame that we couldn't pull the ball in the endzone, but some things aren't meant to be.
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Postby Pony Soup » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:46 pm

mustangfan01 wrote:We were 1-11, in the third overtime of our final game of the year, on the road, with nothing to lose.



If the play goes for a TD -- Phil Bennett is lauded for having such cojones. But no, you Sunday morning quarterbacks think we should be conservative.


Like someone else on the board said, Phil wasn't about to kick the FG...the team wanted to go for the throat and we just fell short.


To answer your question since I am a senior from this team -- I am extremely happy with the decision to go for it and not kick the field goal. It's just a shame that we couldn't pull the ball in the endzone, but some things aren't meant to be.



While I appreciate your efforts and opinion, the time to go for would have been a 2pt conversion on the previous possession. That was all you can ask for, 1 play to win the game. So what, you score a td then have to play defense anyways? PB said himself the D was tired....so END THE GAME on the previous possession...
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Postby FWMustangGirl » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:47 pm

mustangfan01 wrote:We were 1-11, in the third overtime of our final game of the year, on the road, with nothing to lose.



If the play goes for a TD -- Phil Bennett is lauded for having such cojones. But no, you Sunday morning quarterbacks think we should be conservative.


Like someone else on the board said, Phil wasn't about to kick the FG...the team wanted to go for the throat and we just fell short.


To answer your question since I am a senior from this team -- I am extremely happy with the decision to go for it and not kick the field goal. It's just a shame that we couldn't pull the ball in the endzone, but some things aren't meant to be.


I was all for the call to go for it. I would have liked to have seen a different play called, but it is what it is. It is a shame that the team came up short. It was still a hard-fought game, and an effort to be proud of. It's just been that kind of season unfortunately.
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Postby SWC2010 » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:57 pm

thefamousguy wrote:
Pony94 wrote:
BrianTinBigD wrote:Attention anyone else on this board that thinks it is a good idea to let 19-22 year olds make coaching decisions please let me know. If they are the morons that came up with the last play with Dorsey as the lead blocker then I expect them to run gassers until they puke to stop them from calling plays like that in the future. Then again, a real head coach would make the call on his own.


Ok, so PB had nothing to win or lose with either decision made on the last call. If it is truly as it appeared on TV, that PB had the players involved in the decision, then I must admit I agree with the decision.

I would not say that agree with the play call, however.

If you disagree, good for you.


His job is to put the players in the best position to win. You don't let the second graders take over the school just because you're moving to another elementary next year.


Wow... I don't think we've agreed very often, but you and the second graders hit it out tonite
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Postby Pony Soup » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:04 am

That is exactly right. Everytime I point to PB decision making as cause for a loss, it is because he doesn't give his players' the best opportunity to win. Based on everything I have heard about being worn out and beat up, etc., the decision to go for was poorly timed. You cant put up a zero knowing they get a shot to run their offense. You can practically kick the FG to win without running a single play (although i wouldnt trust their kicker on a 42 yarder).

As has been the case in a couple other games, a 2pt conversion attempt would have been appropriate in the 2nd OT. I will take one play from the 3 to win EVERY week, particularly on the road. (But I would put JW under center and run it up the middle)

Whatever, though, the point is moot. As much as we all complain, the season is over. We all support the players and thank the seniors. A new season is upon us and may our new coach bring a bright light to the future years.

Here's to the Mustangs in 2008!
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Postby MrMustang1965 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:15 am

mustangfan01 wrote:To answer your question since I am a senior from this team.
Thanks for your contributions to the team, Cory Muse. ;)
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Postby southerncomfort » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:45 am

It is what it is and it's over now so leave it be. We're hopefully moving on to bigger, better things. They played their hearts out and even though we wish it would have turned out differently in our favour, there ain't no point sitting here blaming a coach that's already fired...It was a loss but it was a different kind of loss and besides the fact that this season is over now, the flight and the ride back was not tense like always...they may not have been content in general but we know we have to move on.
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Re: PB f's up twice in OT

Postby SWC2010 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:35 am

PhirePhilBennett wrote:First, the stupid TO before the kick - we win the game if he doesn't call it (and I am totally against ANY coach doing that - b/c it will kill you)

and going for a TD when you are the 'first' in the OT series...

Just plain dumb


And your surprised???
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Postby couch 'em » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:39 am

I have no problem with going for the TD - it isn't like we were keeping them out of the end zone all day. I also don't have a problem with the 'ice the kicker' time out. I don't like anyone doing it because it never really works, but ONLY at SMU does it come back to screw you over.

My problem is with the play that was called for that 4th and 2. Has the outside sweep from the 2 worked all year? Last year?
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Re: PB f's up twice in OT

Postby PlanoStang » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:59 am

PhirePhilBennett wrote:First, the stupid TO before the kick - we win the game if he doesn't call it (and I am totally against ANY coach doing that - b/c it will kill you)

and going for a TD when you are the 'first' in the OT series...

Just plain dumb


If the timeout was truly called before the field goal attempt started,
then the kicker, and most players who were paying attention heard the
whistle and were distracted or knew the play was over :!: That wasn't
hasBennett's fault :roll:

Going for 2 yards to get a TD in OT, when we shoot miserably at short
yardage attempts in critical situations is an example of why hasBennett
was a poor game day coach.

You gotta kick the field goal, and put the pressure back on their shaky
field goal kicker if the defense can hold them outta the
endzone. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby PhirePhilBennett » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:52 am

Stallion wrote:MORON^

Yeah every other Coach that does that is a genuis but Bennett's an idiot.


NO. I think you should NEVER do that. All you are doing is giving the kicker extra practice. IF he misses, you screwed up. If he makes it, he gets another "rhythm" shot.

This is what BAD COACHING does:

UNHAPPY ENDINGS
The Mustangs lost five Conference USA games this season in the final minute or overtime.

Sept. 29, UT-El Paso 48, SMU 45 (OT): UTEP forced overtime with seven seconds left in regulation and scored the game-winning touchdown on a 10-yard run. SMU had a 14-point fourth-quarter lead.

Oct. 20, Tulane 41, SMU 34 (OT): Matt Forte rushed for 342 yards, including the winning 9-yard score in overtime.

Oct. 27, Tulsa 29, SMU 23: Charles Clay caught a 51-yard touchdown pass with 43 seconds left for the victory. SMU couldn't score with first-and-goal at the 5 on the previous possession.

Nov. 10, Rice 43, SMU 42: Clark Fangmeier made a 31-yard field goal with no time left for the win. SMU had a 15-point fourth-quarter lead.

Saturday, Memphis 55, SMU 52 (3OT): Memphis' Matt Reagan kicked a 32-yard field goal for the win after SMU came up short on fourth-and-goal from the 2.
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