PonyFans.comBoard IndexAround the HilltopFootballRecruitingBasketballOther Sports

Thoughts: Chan Gailey?

This is the forum for talk about SMU Football

Moderators: PonyPride, SmooPower

Postby SMU2007 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:57 pm

i see your point. just hesitant to bring some completely random assistant in. i just want us to be good again damnit!
User avatar
SMU2007
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 5561
Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:41 am

Postby SMU Football Blog » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:00 pm

SMU2007 wrote:i see your point. just hesitant to bring some completely random assistant in. i just want us to be good again damnit!


So do I.
User avatar
SMU Football Blog
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4418
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:44 pm
Location: North Dallas, Texas

Postby SMU Football Blog » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:01 pm

Nacho wrote:Even the blogs have mostly given up on predicting what will happen at SMU. Now an assistant at S Fla is mentioned. I'm beginning to get the feeling that something has gone wrong and that we may not get the coach Orsini wants. Anyone else have that feeling?.


I find the silence unsettling, more than worrisome. If Orsini was truly striking out, I think we would know.
User avatar
SMU Football Blog
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4418
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:44 pm
Location: North Dallas, Texas

Postby jtstang » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:30 pm

There are two kinds of fired coaches available out there right now. The ones that have been fired for reasons that have nothing to do with winning and losing, and those that have been fired for losing too much. Gailey falls into the latter category.
User avatar
jtstang
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 11161
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:21 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Postby Nacho » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:36 pm

I'll take the former jt.
Nacho
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 6043
Joined: Wed Mar 22, 2000 4:01 am

Postby SMUMan02 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:37 pm

jtstang wrote:There are two kinds of fired coaches available out there right now. The ones that have been fired for reasons that have nothing to do with winning and losing, and those that have been fired for losing too much. Gailey falls into the latter category.


Name a coach that falls into the former category?
Class of '02
User avatar
SMUMan02
All-American
 
Posts: 509
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:08 am
Location: Tyler, TX

Postby PonyFan » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:37 pm

SMU Football Blog wrote:Ted Gangi at Mustang Maniacs is saying the same thing:

http://smu.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=2 ... 74&style=2
He says Gailey fits because he fits the Turner desire of "a good Christian man" and then says he shouldn't be hired because The Ticket made fun of him.
1. Orsini is choosing the coach, not Turner, and you can bet your last cent that it won't be based on religion, and
2. If the opinions of those at The Ticket factor in this (or any) decision in any way, the whole thing should be shut down.
"What kind of weirdo school are they running over there in Fort Worth?"
- Randy Galloway
ESPN Radio (103.3 FM)
User avatar
PonyFan
Heisman
 
Posts: 1408
Joined: Sun Oct 08, 2000 3:01 am
Location: Dallas, Texas

Postby jtstang » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:42 pm

SMUMan02 wrote:
jtstang wrote:There are two kinds of fired coaches available out there right now. The ones that have been fired for reasons that have nothing to do with winning and losing, and those that have been fired for losing too much. Gailey falls into the latter category.


Name a coach that falls into the former category?

Neuheisel, Barnett, Bowden, right off the top of my head. O'Leary is an example of a prior Orsini guy in that category.
User avatar
jtstang
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 11161
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:21 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Postby Dutch » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:43 pm

jtstang wrote:There are two kinds of fired coaches available out there right now. The ones that have been fired for reasons that have nothing to do with winning and losing, and those that have been fired for losing too much. Gailey falls into the latter category.


i think it was really that he lost too much to one school (UGA). a friend in Atlanta said that the sports radio/media there is saying how ridiculous this is b/c he can't beat Georgia. That's like Iowa State or Michigan State going up against Iowa or Michigan. it's a big game, yes - i'm not discrediting that, but they are in different leagues (both conf & in terms of level of play)
Ok this is getting ridiculous...I agree with Dutch on THIS ONE POST by him totally
User avatar
Dutch
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4377
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:56 pm
Location: 75205

Postby SMUMan02 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:46 pm

jtstang wrote:
SMUMan02 wrote:
jtstang wrote:There are two kinds of fired coaches available out there right now. The ones that have been fired for reasons that have nothing to do with winning and losing, and those that have been fired for losing too much. Gailey falls into the latter category.


Name a coach that falls into the former category?

Neuheisel, Barnett, Bowden, right off the top of my head. O'Leary is an example of a prior Orsini guy in that category.


Except for O'Leary they all had on the field problems too. They all had the Fran-syndrome. Their off-the-field problems, allowed them to be fired more quickly than their on-field performance.
Class of '02
User avatar
SMUMan02
All-American
 
Posts: 509
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:08 am
Location: Tyler, TX

Postby mustang06 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:55 pm

SMU Football Blog,

Why, specifically, do you and apparently everyone else in Dallas think that Chan is a joke?
mustang06
Scout Team
 
Posts: 63
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:46 pm

Postby jtstang » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:00 pm

SMUMan02 wrote:
jtstang wrote:
SMUMan02 wrote:
jtstang wrote:There are two kinds of fired coaches available out there right now. The ones that have been fired for reasons that have nothing to do with winning and losing, and those that have been fired for losing too much. Gailey falls into the latter category.


Name a coach that falls into the former category?

Neuheisel, Barnett, Bowden, right off the top of my head. O'Leary is an example of a prior Orsini guy in that category.


Except for O'Leary they all had on the field problems too. They all had the Fran-syndrome. Their off-the-field problems, allowed them to be fired more quickly than their on-field performance.

According to you yourself, Bowden was not fired for on-field problems:

SMUMan02 wrote:I've spent significant time in Alabama and I think the universale sentiment is that Bowden is a bad guy. He lost his job for sleeping with the daughter of a member of the board...is that really what we want?
User avatar
jtstang
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 11161
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:21 am
Location: Dallas, TX

Postby SMU Football Blog » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:17 pm

mustang06 wrote:SMU Football Blog,

Why, specifically, do you and apparently everyone else in Dallas think that Chan is a joke?

The perception is that Chan was Jerry Jones' puppet, for one. The Cowboys players had no respect for him. Aikman explicitly wanted him gone. Not to mention he presided over probably the worst playoff defeat in Cowboys' history: losing at home to Arizona 20-7 in 1998.

Is that all deserved? Probably not, but that is the perception. I asked four people with no connection to SMU what they thought of Chan Gailey as the next coach fo SMU. All thought he would be terrible. None of them think the guy can coach.

Now that is just what some people think and I happen to agree. But at some level, I would like the next guy to be able to sell the program and I am personally convinced that Chan Gailey cannot do that.
User avatar
SMU Football Blog
PonyFans.com Legend
 
Posts: 4418
Joined: Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:44 pm
Location: North Dallas, Texas

Postby SMUMan02 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:30 pm

jtstang wrote:
SMUMan02 wrote:
jtstang wrote:
SMUMan02 wrote:
jtstang wrote:There are two kinds of fired coaches available out there right now. The ones that have been fired for reasons that have nothing to do with winning and losing, and those that have been fired for losing too much. Gailey falls into the latter category.


Name a coach that falls into the former category?

Neuheisel, Barnett, Bowden, right off the top of my head. O'Leary is an example of a prior Orsini guy in that category.


Except for O'Leary they all had on the field problems too. They all had the Fran-syndrome. Their off-the-field problems, allowed them to be fired more quickly than their on-field performance.

According to you yourself, Bowden was not fired for on-field problems:

SMUMan02 wrote:I've spent significant time in Alabama and I think the universale sentiment is that Bowden is a bad guy. He lost his job for sleeping with the daughter of a member of the board...is that really what we want?


I don't think my post insinuates in any way that there weren't on-the-field problems. I think Bowden is an outlier because he had so many off-the-field problems. They were fortunate not to get the death penatly after he left. I think they came closer than anyone else since us.
Class of '02
User avatar
SMUMan02
All-American
 
Posts: 509
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:08 am
Location: Tyler, TX

Postby jtstang » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:33 pm

SMUMan02 wrote:I don't think my post insinuates in any way that there weren't on-the-field problems.

Your post does not insinuate anything. It states as fact that:
He lost his job for sleeping with the daughter of a member of the board...

Now I sincerely hope that happened off the field, or else ESPN would have had record viewers on SportCenter that night.
User avatar
jtstang
PonyFans.com Super Legend
 
Posts: 11161
Joined: Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:21 am
Location: Dallas, TX

PreviousNext

Return to Football

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 19 guests