Fall Lineup

by **Almost Famous** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:36 pm

So this is my first post not only for ponyfans but also for blogs in general and I am curious how this works out...it would appear that the idea is to put down and point out all the flaws of not just the team but individual players.

How does a topic go from lets discuss a fall roster, to lets talk about what frusterates us and makes us even more depressed about life?

I could basically do the same thing to ya'll in talking about how weak you guys are at staying on topic...

by **PonyLaw_aTm** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:53 pm

So this is my first post not only for ponyfans but also for blogs in general and I am curious how this works out...it would appear that the idea is to put down and point out all the flaws of not just the team but individual players.

How does a topic go from lets discuss a fall roster, to lets talk about what frusterates us and makes us even more depressed about life?

I could basically do the same thing to ya'll in talking about how weak you guys are at staying on topic...

ohai, and welcome to the intarwebz! lolwut?

by **George S. Patton** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:30 pm

jtstang wrote:Who cares what Mitchell did? The freaking team was 1-11, for godsake. Pointing out individual achievements (or failures, for that matter) is a pointless exercise.

Is it? A lot of you guys were so quick to use Mitchell as a punching bag or punch line that it became sport. There was still the clique on this board that wanted Willis to remain the starter and when that didn't happen, you guys had a hard time getting over that.

The troubles in this program were well beyond Willis and long before June Jones stepped foot on this campus as the head coach.

by **Almost Famous** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:41 pm

jtstang wrote:
Who cares what Mitchell did? The freaking team was 1-11, for godsake. Pointing out individual achievements (or failures, for that matter) is a pointless exercise.

Is it?

Football is played by a team, and lost by a team. A player can have the greatest game of his life and still leave without a victory. This is a young team that needs to learn how to make it count in the big moments of the game. From creating touchdowns on a 10-15 play drive to getting the other teams offense off the field on a third and long.

What it comes down to is who wants to step up and take charge in creating an attitude that says no more, we need to take control now

by **Stallion** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:05 pm

Look this ain't the Katy High School Fan Appreciation Board-If you want to start an SMU Cheerleaders Board or Back the Blue Spirit Board be my guess-and take the rest of the Cheerleaders without anything interesting to say with you. (ie "We're Goin' To Kick Some [deleted]" "Nice story", "Ditto" "Right On"). The rest of us have a few comments about why this program has won 1 division 1A Football Games in 2 years, has had 1 winning seasons and gone to no bowl games in 23 years.

by **StallionsModelT** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:24 pm

Stallion right on cue as the Ponyfans Wyatt Earp. Thank you for your tireless efforts to make this message board about YOU.

by **Alaric** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:53 pm

Stallion wrote:Yes I think that what we saw last year with a bunch of second level freshman recruits playing well before they were physically or mentally ready was silly and a waste of a redshirt year for about 3/4th of them.

Might as well play the freshman. You have NOTHING to gain from upperclassman IF they're only 1 win talent guys...I know you pined for Justin Willis. I like him too & I really think June Jones would have played him if he thought he could have played in this system (June Jones started a senior qb his first year at Hawaii).

JJ might have judged this team to be 2 years away from being competitive so he started grooming a qb for his junior year instead of having Justin Willis take up starting time while the team lost anyway.

by **SMU21TCU10** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:54 pm

George S. Patton wrote:
jtstang wrote:Who cares what Mitchell did? The freaking team was 1-11, for godsake. Pointing out individual achievements (or failures, for that matter) is a pointless exercise.

Is it? A lot of you guys were so quick to use Mitchell as a punching bag or punch line that it became sport. There was still the clique on this board that wanted Willis to remain the starter and when that didn't happen, you guys had a hard time getting over that.

The troubles in this program were well beyond Willis and long before June Jones stepped foot on this campus as the head coach.

Dont Stop Bo-Levin

by **George S. Patton** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:54 pm

It appeared that every decision that the head coach made wasn't going to be done for 2008 but for 2010 and beyond.

So since you didn't like to see all the freshmen out there, then you shold have taken it up with him.

You have said yourself that this talent has been stinko for years. And it is. But so many thought when Jones got here, they talked themselves into a bowl season and blah, blah, blah.

And when it didn't happen, well then clique decided the head coach didn't know what he was doing.

I predicted 4-8. You predicted 3-9. We were both wrong.

I have stated in the past that I was indifferent about Mitchell being named as the QB. Well, the year is behind us.

In other words, all of us are wasting our time looking back. If you want to relive history, then go back and check out the 1983 Cotton Bowl against Pitt.

by **SMU21TCU10** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:57 pm

George S. Patton wrote:Was it a waste for the quarterback? I swear to you if anybody just took what was said on this board, you would have thought the quarterback only threw 23 interceptions to lead the country.

The interesting thing was that he also threw for 2,865 yards and 24 TDs -- hmmmm. I just thought some of you would like to know that.

BTW, he had every right calling out those sluff ball upper classmen at the end of the year. Again, I'll go back to the laughing it up crap I watched in the stands when we were getting beat.

is 2865 yards really all that much for a JJ R and S qb?

by **Alaric** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:01 pm

George S. Patton wrote:It appeared that every decision that the head coach made wasn't going to be done for 2008 but for 2010 and beyond.

So since you didn't like to see all the freshmen out there, then you shold have taken it up with him.

You have said yourself that this talent has been stinko for years. And it is. But so many thought when Jones got here, they talked themselves into a bowl season and blah, blah, blah.

And when it didn't happen, well then clique decided the head coach didn't know what he was doing.

I predicted 4-8. You predicted 3-9. We were both wrong.

I have stated in the past that I was indifferent about Mitchell being named as the QB. Well, the year is behind us.

In other words, all of us are wasting our time looking back. If you want to relive history, then go back and check out the 1983 Cotton Bowl against Pitt.

catch 2 easy passes and we're 3-9...which, unfortunately, still sucks but it's a lot better than 1-11

by **George S. Patton** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:11 pm

SMU21TCU10 wrote:
George S. Patton wrote:Was it a waste for the quarterback? I swear to you if anybody just took what was said on this board, you would have thought the quarterback only threw 23 interceptions to lead the country.

The interesting thing was that he also threw for 2,865 yards and 24 TDs -- hmmmm. I just thought some of you would like to know that.

BTW, he had every right calling out those sluff ball upper classmen at the end of the year. Again, I'll go back to the laughing it up crap I watched in the stands when we were getting beat.

is 2865 yards really all that much for a JJ R and S qb?

Probably not but didn't he some time last year with an injury and the backup -- forgot the name but he was also one the keeper said wasn't a DI QB -- threw for about 500 more. Let's be honest 3,000+ yards from your QB is still a lot of yards.

by **jtstang** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:33 pm

George S. Patton wrote:
jtstang wrote:Who cares what Mitchell did? The freaking team was 1-11, for godsake. Pointing out individual achievements (or failures, for that matter) is a pointless exercise.

Is it? A lot of you guys were so quick to use Mitchell as a punching bag or punch line that it became sport.

It is if you care about getting better. But frankly it's been so long that I couldn't blame you if you had completely lost sight of what it means to be good in football.

And as for Mitchell, gloss over the 1-11 record and 23 ints if it makes you feel better, because it really doesn't matter. The QB position is just one of many that contributed to the record last year. And the year before that. Etc., etc.

by **George S. Patton** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:35 pm

jtstang wrote:
George S. Patton wrote:
jtstang wrote:Who cares what Mitchell did? The freaking team was 1-11, for godsake. Pointing out individual achievements (or failures, for that matter) is a pointless exercise.

Is it? A lot of you guys were so quick to use Mitchell as a punching bag or punch line that it became sport.

It is if you care about getting better. But frankly it's been so long that I couldn't blame you if you had completely lost sight of what it means to be good in football.

And as for Mitchell, gloss over the 1-11 record and 23 ints if it makes you feel better, because it really doesn't matter. The QB position is just one of many that contributed to the record last year. And the year before that. Etc., etc.

I don't think I was glossing over his 23 ints. Just remember he had no spring and little fall time so I don't believe his season should have shocked people. That's why I was indifferent to his selection.

IMO, the biggest problem with this team is that the culture inside poisoned everything outside. You have to get your house in order on the inside before it starts looking better on the outside -- from better players, to culture to selflessness. And I don't think we've had that here for some time.

What I found ironic is how that story pretty quickly died after 2 of 9 released from their scholarships were complaining more because they made grades more than were contributors to the program.

by **jtstang** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:05 pm

Well you implied that the INTs should be overlooked in favor of the yardage and TDs. But you certainly glossed over the record, not so much as mentioning it.

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