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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby Balatro Diabolus Ex » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:11 pm

Stallion wrote:The statement that all Texas High Schools run the spread is not really accurate.


Didnt our very own Bo Levi Mitchell play on a Texas State championship team that featured a power running game, and rarely threw the ball?
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby Balatro Diabolus Ex » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:27 pm

KnuckleStang wrote:The argument that PJ's style of offense only works for 1-AA and service academies, and will never work if you teach it to BCS caliber athletes has always been hilarious to me. He has won everywhere he has been. He will continue to win at GT


I've always been a fan of the option, played it both in high school and college, and love to watch good teams execute it now. No one ever gave me a legitimate argument as to why it wouldnt work at GT, the just seemed determined that it couldnt. Some people will convince themselves of anything, if they want to believe it badly enough.

I've been a fan of Paul Johnson as a coach ever since his first game at Navy, when a heavy underdog Navy team ran up and down the field in Ford Stadium and broke a 17 game losing streak by crushing SMU 35-7 (correct me if that was not the actual score, it was somewhere in the neighborhood). That being said, though, there is one difference between PJ and JJ that is vastly more important than what offensive schemes they run. JJ wanted to come here, PJ didnt. Despite a brief flirtation with SMU, Paul Johnsons real desire was to go somewhere he could compete for a National Championship, and that wouldnt happen at SMU. You cant blame him, winning a title is the pinnacle of his profession, every coach has some aspirations in that direction, and it looks like he made the choice that was right for him. All this argument over who you would rather have, though, is a moot point. It doesnt matter how bad we might have wanted Johnson, he had no real interest in coming here, his visit to Dallas (and the antics of the now infamous Purple Hippo) was nothing more than a negotiating ploy. June Jones is our coach, and the program seems to be making some progress. There is no point in crying over something you could never have, its wasted time and effort. Play with the cards you're dealt.
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby Balatro Diabolus Ex » Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:00 pm

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Two more years - max. Then we can look at 8 - 10 wins a year. It's coming.


Three more years- max. Then Jones retires and takes his 10 million dollars back to the islands, and spends his later years watching the sunset over the Pacific. It's coming.

I dont mean to be a killjoy, but Jones has made it clear he intends to retire when his current contract is up. Dont make long term plans that require him to still be here.
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby mrydel » Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:21 pm

But the key is that Jones was able to make changes in the admission requirements and in "player friendly" courses. Now if improvement can be made on the field the next coach will not have to be a Jones but rather a Sumlin type coordinator. Jones needed to be hired in order to get the changes in place.
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby Balatro Diabolus Ex » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:05 pm

Tell me more about the "player friendly" courses. Which classes are you referring to, specifically? What department and course number? What was June Jones role in their creation? What exactly is it about them that makes them "player friendly"?
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby mrydel » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:33 pm

Balatro Diabolus Ex wrote:Tell me more about the "player friendly" courses. Which classes are you referring to, specifically? What department and course number? What was June Jones role in their creation? What exactly is it about them that makes them "player friendly"?


Maybe that is the wrong term. It is my understaning that there is now an education department and I thought there were to be some sports related classes, but I am not near the guru you are in this area. I did not mean to imply, "gimmie" courses, but rather some courses that athletes could take without aspirations to become a lawyer, engineer, or MBA. And yes, I do believe that when Jones was hired I think he laid down conditions under which he would come. We have seen players admitted that could not have been in the past. I do not have specifics, and you know that I am not in position to have the specifics, but I can see the type of players that are being recruited, and they are different than in the past.
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby Balatro Diabolus Ex » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:38 pm

There were always classes that wouldnt require anyway to become an engineer, lawyer, or MBA. I've heard this term alot, and was actually hoping you'd have an answer, because I'm really curious about which classes are "player friendly", and why.
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby mrydel » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:55 pm

Sorry. Here in Arkansas I have to rely on rumors, lies, and make believe to get through the season.
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby Charleston Pony » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:11 pm

we had some "player friendly" courses in my day and I found out about them from some player friends. There was "The Scientific Revolution and it's Impact on Man" and my personal favorite "Broadcast Film". Show up, watch films and take a "gimme" exam at the end of the course. Professors had an agenda but liked SMU athletes. The only requirement was that you had to attend class.
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby SMU 86 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:36 pm

Rice ran the wishbone before Todd Graham got there and they did not have success,
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby rich59 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:42 pm

I thought Graham took them to a bowl and then left the next year.
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby SMU 86 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:52 pm

rich59 wrote:I thought Graham took them to a bowl and then left the next year.

Exactly, Graham switched to a spread when he got there and took them to a bowl game. Before that they ran the wishbone and were not successful.
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby rich59 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:10 pm

Did he not run the spread option?
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Re: June Jones v. Paul Johnson

Postby SMU 86 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:16 pm

rich59 wrote:Did he not run the spread option?


No, Major Applewhite had the no huddle spread working for them. The threw more than they ran. That is when Dillard really took off.
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