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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby Mexmustang » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:48 pm

Chip Brown was used by Texas...makes the rest of the Big 12 look like virgins. He was the waterboy for Deloss' bluff.
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby SMU89 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:51 pm

ontheedgeofmyseat wrote:..most here lack three things...sense of reality / perspective AND history...speak on brother...


History is full of individuals who's sense of reality and perspective was that something could be accomplished when others said it couldn't.

Those individuals are leaders and winners -- you and your children read about them in books.

The others are generically mentioned as those who said it couldn't be done.

I hope our administration, coaches, players, and alums have the right sense and perspective.
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby mr. pony » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:02 pm

Bottom line:
Would it have killed CJ to throw SMU a bone during his comments about TCU - even in jest?
You know, like, "and don't forget my Mustangs there in Dallas. They're looking to move up too and will soon be ready." I can see Flutie doing that in a similar circumstance with BC.
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby Dwan » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:38 pm

Look, anybody who casually follows college football knows that the Big 12 (10) has ZERO interest in adding teams. Also, if they were to expand, there is no chance they would add TCU and even less of a chance that Arkansas would leave the SEC. So this is just James out there blowing smoke and self promoting maybe because he wants to increase his profile or help people forget about his son. Knowing him, if he was being interviewed by the Houston Cronicle, he would be saying at Houston and Arkansas because of Houston's B-Ball history. I think the point is, if he is just out making noise, it would be nice if he threw his Alma Mater a bone. I dont think anybody seriously thinks SMU can/should/deserves to be in the Big 12, but it would be nice if one of our biggest and most famous Alumni could be a homer. Forget logic, we just want a homer!
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby Stallion » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:52 pm

What no mention of SMU?

Look if SMU wants to be marginally considered for a BCS Conference it will need:

1. New or totally remodeled BB arena
2. 45,000-50,000 seat stadium
3. Attendance of 40,000 for multiple seasons and strong Dallas presence
4. Repeated Top 25 finishes, probably a BCS berth or contention for one and consistent 8" wins over a period at a minimum 5 or so years.

That's pretty much a benchmark for those that have moved up-and even programs which have generally met those guidelines have not been chosen. SMU doesn't meet those standards-it would be silly to list SMU as a team that should be considered under those types of standards.
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby CalallenStang » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:58 pm

Stallion wrote:What no mention of SMU?

Look if SMU wants to be marginally considered for a BCS Conference it will need:

1. New or totally remodeled BB arena
2. 45,000-50,000 seat stadium
3. Attendance of 40,000 for multiple seasons and strong Dallas presence
4. Repeated Top 25 finishes, probably a BCS berth or contention for one and consistent 8" wins over a period at a minimum 5 or so years.

That's pretty much a benchmark for those that have moved up-and even programs which have generally met those guidelines have not been chosen. SMU doesn't meet those standards-it would be silly to list SMU as a team that should be considered under those types of standards.


TCU has been "marginally considered for a BCS Conference" and they only meet one of those 4 criteria (#4; though their stadium is close to #2 but they are about to downsize it). Just sayin'
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby NickSMU17 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:10 pm

Houston fits none of those catagories...

typical Texas Tech law degree talk....

CJ is a loser...
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby ontheedgeofmyseat » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:10 pm

Wow SMU89...dramatic...I thought we were talking about college football?!? LOVE this board!
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby SMU89 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:05 pm

ontheedgeofmyseat wrote:Wow SMU89...dramatic...I thought we were talking about college football?!? LOVE this board!


I didn't know "we" were talking about college football.

Well said Stallion....it is getting to the point where your posts are about the only ones I read anymore...thanks for speaking the truth and keeping it real..


..most here lack three things...sense of reality / perspective AND history...speak on brother...



ahhhh...this is when PF gets interesting...
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby gostangs » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:22 am

Stallion - I believe in previous posts you said the re-alignment issue was about money and only money. In that criteria I dont think we give up anything to TCU - it would be foolish to compare success on the field - and if that is a criteria (which it ain't) then fine - they get the nod. And yes, SMU is a small school - but we deliver a much better demographic then TCU and we also have better corporate tie ins for fuure advertising revenue. The question is not about the past - but about what the conference (and each school) would look like once admitted into the Big 12 - and SMU would be the Big 12"s northwestern/Vanderbilt /(dare I say) USC virtually overnight with the right combination of events. we have that potnential much more the TCU for numerous reasons. personally I think both TCU and SMU should be in, but I think that is likely a pipe-dream.

And the real question is - regardless of the validity or not - why would a guy who owes his entire professional career to the fact that Ron Meyer erroniously played him half the time instead of giving all the plays to what was possiblly the best back in college football history - why cant that guy give his team a shout out ? - it is done all the time by others bigger then CJ - and it would help our future chances to have SMU bantered about in the mix of things.

by the way - stay tuned regarding number one on your list.

And one last thing - we'll write a big check for them to divide up - hows that?
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby couch 'em » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:36 am

I can't tell if you guys are just clueless or if you just say crazy stuff to bait Stallion.

Craig James makes his living off football comentary. Say what you will about his opinion on TCU/Ark to Big12 (we know it is wrong).... BUT to the average football fan Craig James saying TCU and Ark makes perfect sense. People know Arkansas, people know TCU's Top 5 football program, and now their Top 1 baseball program.

If Craig James says SMU to the Big 12, he's going to be laughed at and lose all credibility.

Are you guys actually trashing an SMU legend because he isn't trashing his career to promote SMU? You would rather he try to uphold a rivalry that is so lopsided that TCU hardly considers us a rival and the average football fan doesn't consider us rivals with TCU at all, at the cost of damaging his professional credibility?

You old timers are in total la-la-land. Right now, SMU might as well be Lousiana Tech or Arkansas State. We can change this, but we aren't there yet!
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby couch 'em » Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:38 am

And before someone says this last year changed everything, Tulane had a great coach and went undefeated in 1998. How are they now?
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby Nacho » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:23 am

who hates craig more? smu or tt. close call. I'm going with tt because they are way dumber than us.
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Re: Craig James-TCU & Ark should be in B12

Postby BroOrDie » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:24 am

Dwan wrote:Look, anybody who casually follows college football knows that the Big 12 (10) has ZERO interest in adding teams. Also, if they were to expand, there is no chance they would add TCU and even less of a chance that Arkansas would leave the SEC. So this is just James out there blowing smoke and self promoting maybe because he wants to increase his profile or help people forget about his son. Knowing him, if he was being interviewed by the Houston Cronicle, he would be saying at Houston and Arkansas because of Houston's B-Ball history. I think the point is, if he is just out making noise, it would be nice if he threw his Alma Mater a bone. I dont think anybody seriously thinks SMU can/should/deserves to be in the Big 12, but it would be nice if one of our biggest and most famous Alumni could be a homer. Forget logic, we just want a homer!


2 reasons they wont stay at 10....$$$$$$ and more $$$$$$$$$$$

can't have a championship game w/ only 10 teams and that kills the 13th game at the end of the season that rakes it in for the conf champ game that is supposed to happen at jerry world for the next 5 years.

$$$ was the motivation to stay put, think ESPN/ABC is spending all that money to see Texas stop playing at thanksgiving? no way!
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