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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby tristatecoog » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:03 pm

BIGHORSE wrote:They may have different coaches and players now, but they still
have the same bloodthirsty fans that were there that terrible night in 1989. :evil:


The students that replaced may feel the same, but I was at the '89 game yelling for a hundred and was excited about 1021 yards. They were downright giddy times. Now, I'm very pleased with the new regime that took Case out at halftime with a 56-7 score on TX State. 40 pt margin of victory in that one. Go all out in one half and then empty the benches in the second half.

SMU already got its revenge with the 1992 win.

I still think it'll be a competitive game in mid-October as we face each other. Broadway should be a good talent. He'll have a few weeks under his belt. It took Case to perform some incredible theatrics to win in Dallas two years ago, so we all knew it was going to be a battle. Just more so now.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby Pony81 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:32 pm

After what UH did to us in 1989, I want them to never win another game. I can remember their Coach Jenkins explaining that "I didn't run up the score - we only have deep passes in our offense" (or something to that effect). UH humiliated us when other schools won handily but ran conservative offenses and didn't run up the score. Remember the guy from ND who actually ran out of bounds to keep from scoring?

A bunch of classless, wannabe idiots. While I feel bad for the injured young men, I am hopeful UH might be on the receiving end of some very big losses.

Hopefully, we can get up by 21+ and go to a conservative offense including taking a knee during the last series. Let's show those boozos how to win with class.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby Harry0569 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:01 pm

Horrible news for the two kids, the UH program, and C-USA as a whole. I wish them both the best.

With that said, let's go win C-USA.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby sbsmith » Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:52 pm

SMU just got handed this division on a silver platter, hopefully the guys don't give it back like they did last season.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby docabel » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:19 am

My how the times have changed.

Another team loses a starting (and backup) quarterback and this year we are talking about taking the conference. It wasn't but a few short seasons ago when we ran into a few teams who were down to there 3rd string QBs who would routinely then have lifetime games once they faced us.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby tristatecoog » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:37 am

Pony81, the way I remember it, Gregg ran a strategy of stacking the short yardage stuff and leaving the long ball open man on man, or blitzing a lot. To me, running out of bounds or punting on 3rd down is humiliating. What UH should have done was played its backups much more liberally, maybe starting in the second quarter. This year, against TX State, UH didn't play any starters after halftime.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby Pony in SA » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:48 am

tristatecoog wrote:Pony81, the way I remember it, Gregg ran a strategy of stacking the short yardage stuff and leaving the long ball open man on man, or blitzing a lot. To me, running out of bounds or punting on 3rd down is humiliating. What UH should have done was played its backups much more liberally, maybe starting in the second quarter. This year, against TX State, UH didn't play any starters after halftime.


I was there and your facts are wrong. Nothing Coach Gregg did justified Houston calling timeouts with less than a minute to go in the first half to throw 2 deep balls to the end zone already ahead 4 to 5 touchdowns. That was what set Coach Gregg off and made him thrown down his clip board and headset and go after UH Coaches at end of first half. Coach Gregg and everyone knew we would take our licks that year, but the actions that day went beyond.

No, they didn't have to run out of bounds but they did not have to leave Ware and Witherspoon in the second half and continue to throw deep. Some Houston alums around us were worried Ware might get a freak injury, couldn't believe your coaches left their 2 best players in that long, and even apologized to us after the game.

I appreciate revisionist history but stick to the facts. The video does not lie on the play calls or who was left in the game. What Houston did in leaving Ware in and continuing to throw the ball deep and try to get 100 points was denounced by everyone across the country.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby Dutch » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:28 am

the kids on the field today weren't even born then.

sorry for these kids as individuals, but damn happy about our chances to win the west. let's stay healthy this weekend and get past TCU and start winning conference games.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby EastStang » Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:28 pm

You probably won't see Keenum in a Houston Uni ever again. He's got pro potential. He's already had a head and now a knee injury. He can't risk getting a career ending injury off a payroll. Of course that assumes that UH is not paying their players.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby Pony81 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:59 pm

Tristatecoog,
As a Houston native I remeber the Bill Yeoman / Guy Lewis days of UH athletics. Classy guys who where ahead of their time in recruiting and coaching.

I was as upset as anybody in Houston when Jimmy V's NCState team beat Phi Slamma Jamma in the NCAA finals.

But after seeing the classless, BS that Jenkins put on SMU in 1989, I was disgusted to the point of hatred. I know many Houstonians who had similar feelings. UH's crossed a line that day and never has come back.

UH now stands for punk, FU athletics. Witness their ridiculous handling of the UT game a few years back - forcing UT to play the "home" game in Robertson Field despite a better gate at a pro stadium.

Get your facts right, Tristatecoog, UH wanted to score 100 points on a completely undermanned team. Wanted to humiliate them. Wanted to shock the world with their 100 points.

UH lost the patina of the Bill Yeoman / Guy Lewis recruitment of african american athletes before it was cool.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby gostangs » Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:23 pm

Uh....aren't we playing TCU this weekend? Lets save the baggage for homecoming.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby tristatecoog » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:08 pm

Pony81 wrote:Tristatecoog,
As a Houston native I remeber the Bill Yeoman / Guy Lewis days of UH athletics. Classy guys who where ahead of their time in recruiting and coaching.

I was as upset as anybody in Houston when Jimmy V's NCState team beat Phi Slamma Jamma in the NCAA finals.

But after seeing the classless, BS that Jenkins put on SMU in 1989, I was disgusted to the point of hatred. I know many Houstonians who had similar feelings. UH's crossed a line that day and never has come back.

UH now stands for punk, FU athletics. Witness their ridiculous handling of the UT game a few years back - forcing UT to play the "home" game in Robertson Field despite a better gate at a pro stadium.

Get your facts right, Tristatecoog, UH wanted to score 100 points on a completely undermanned team. Wanted to humiliate them. Wanted to shock the world with their 100 points.

UH lost the patina of the Bill Yeoman / Guy Lewis recruitment of african american athletes before it was cool.



I don't disagree that Jenkins went deep. I was there too. His reasoning (weak at that) was that Gregg left open the deep ball assuming that we wouldn't take advantage of the opportunity. Jenkins was a run up the numbers guy and it came back to bite him in 2001 and 2002 (both 4-7 years) and resulted in his firing.

Kevin Sumlin is very classy and took out Case at the end of the first half against TX State, basically as good as SMU in 1989. On the other hand, A&M played Jerrod Johnson well into the fourth quarter against SFA in this year's opener.

My opinion is that anything goes in the first half and call off the dogs in the second half with backups. I hope SMU gets in the position to test how June Jones would respond if up by big numbers. He seems great and runs out the clock when comfortably ahead, unlike Mike Leach who nearly got into a fight with Phil Bennett.
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby HB Pony Dad » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:23 pm

Probably a direct result of Thad's and my stealth PF scouting at the Rose Bowl Saturday Night! :oops:

As a sidelight, Rick Neuheisel provided us the tickets which were One Row above the field giving us a Wonderful View of the Bruin Player's Backs! :o

As soon as we moved to great seats at the 40 we watched in :shock:ed awe as Case threw a goal line INT and then attempted to make a tackle resulting in the injury. :(

The PF scouting presence was good for the Ponies but not for the "lets score 100" Cougs. :x

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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby stc9 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:48 pm

Was Jack Pardee on that Coaching staff in 1989? Did he leave UH and go to the Oilers?
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Re: UH's Keenum and Turner out for season

Postby smupony94 » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:16 pm

HB Pony Dad wrote:Probably a direct result of Thad's and my stealth *******
giving us a Wonderful View of the Bruin Player's Backs! :o


All starting to make since now
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