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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby mrydel » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:00 pm

Did I not read an article where Conner said he probably would not be coming in December after all?
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby SMU 86 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:04 pm

mrydel wrote:Did I not read an article where Conner said he probably would not be coming in December after all?


I do not remember reading that however I have been wrong before. Mooreland may graduate early as well if he has the credits.
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby Pony_Law » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:04 pm

Regarless of when he comes He needs to redshirt, this is a tough Offense to learn you need time in it to run it right. Kyle will be the starter next year, remember guys he just set a record for most Td's in a season for SMU he's good, had a bad game but is still younge. If he does not continue to improve yea someone might take his spot but thats true for everyone. I don't think He will be the reason we lose games next year.
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby couch 'em » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:35 pm

There is no chance Padron doesn't start game 1 next year, but it is clear to all that we've played some really awful defences this year and didn't put up many points. It is also clear that the offense we are running is not what was run in Hawaii. If Hawaii ran the 'run n shoot' thus ain't it and not because we are running a lot.

Is it because the QB can't get it? WRs can't get it? Only partially implemented due to turnover? I hope #3 but if it is as insanely complicated every makes it out to be whenever we screw up I don't see how it could ever have been developed. It seems like we are running a basic nerfed offense because we can't pull it off still in year 3.
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby PonyKai » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:41 pm

Well at least in the past 365 days, the offense will have had an extra 34 practices to execute it better. 15 for each bowl game and the extra 4 for conference championship week...
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby skyscraper » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:41 pm

Mad props to the defense. Holding UCF to 17 should have meant an SMU win.
I don't know how Padron avoids the blame on this one. He has been inconsistent all year, and looked rattled from the get go today.
I hope this is just the stereotypical sophomore slump for him.
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby SMU 86 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:42 pm

Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:Well at least in the past 365 days, the offense will have had an extra 34 practices to execute it better. 15 for each bowl game and the extra 4 for conference championship week...


This is true.
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby Big Hoss » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:49 pm

skyscraper wrote:Mad props to the defense. Holding UCF to 17 should have meant an SMU win.


I said the same thing after the game. The defense didn't look great, but if you hold a team to only 17 points, you have a shot at winning if your offense does absolutely anything at all. We couldn't muster up anything.

Props to UCF. They played well, and held our offense in check. I wish we had shown up today, too, but I'm not calling for Padron's head just yet. This was a big game that was realistically over our heads given where our program is to date. I want to see us take a step between now and next year, and stop talking about how many years away we are from the depth we need to compete. If we are still having that conversation next year, then I'll be pretty frustrated.

As it stands now, we are going to our 2nd bowl game in a row, and I'm pretty happy since that hasn't happened in nearly 30 years.
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby sbsmith » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:50 pm

couch 'em wrote:There is no chance Padron doesn't start game 1 next year, but it is clear to all that we've played some really awful defences this year and didn't put up many points. It is also clear that the offense we are running is not what was run in Hawaii. If Hawaii ran the 'run n shoot' thus ain't it and not because we are running a lot.

Is it because the QB can't get it? WRs can't get it? Only partially implemented due to turnover? I hope #3 but if it is as insanely complicated every makes it out to be whenever we screw up I don't see how it could ever have been developed. It seems like we are running a basic nerfed offense because we can't pull it off still in year 3.





In this offense the QB and WR have to be on the same page making the same reads, if one or both are off then the thing can't work. Even considering that Kyle has to get rid of the ball faster even if it's to throw it away, his indecisveness and accuracy problems have held the offense back. A R&S QB has to complete at least 65 percent of his passes for the offense to really start humming.
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby rich59 » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:55 pm

It looked to me, especially at the end of the game, that the QB's ankle was much worse than advertised. That could certainly hamper him in his footwork throwing the ball. The way JJ was greeting him on the sidelines makes me think also the ankle was bothering him.
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby Big Hoss » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:56 pm

sbsmith wrote:In this offense the QB and WR have to be on the same page making the same reads, if one or both are off then the thing can't work. Even considering that Kyle has to get rid of the ball faster even if it's to throw it away, his indecisveness and accuracy problems have held the offense back. A R&S QB has to complete at least 65 percent of his passes for the offense to really start humming.


Look, is he clicking on all cylinders? No. But if he starts most of our games next year, he will have pretty much every record held by any QB ever in SMU history. So he's doing something right, isn't he?

Plus, again, this is our 2ND YEAR IN A ROW to go to a bowl game. Let's lighten up a bit and enjoy the ride.
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby PonyKai » Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:59 pm

SMU 86 wrote:
Stlhockeyguy02 wrote:Well at least in the past 365 days, the offense will have had an extra 34 practices to execute it better. 15 for each bowl game and the extra 4 for conference championship week...


This is true.


And an extra three games. So in one year the offense will have had extra:

2009- 15 Bowl Practices
2009- Hawai'i Bowl
2010- 4-5 CUSA Championship Bowl Practices
2010- CUSA Championship Game
2010- 15 Bowl Practices
2010- Armed Forces Bowl
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby ponyscott » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:02 pm

Sorry gents but that was this board is about......constructive comments and some here with no constructive comments. Kyle doesn't look good and we all know it. He isn't really consistant and hopefully this is a Sophomore slump, but he was inept today and has never looked on target all year. He look's like a wind-up robot with no QB craftiness.
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby sbsmith » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:10 pm

Big Hoss wrote:
sbsmith wrote:In this offense the QB and WR have to be on the same page making the same reads, if one or both are off then the thing can't work. Even considering that Kyle has to get rid of the ball faster even if it's to throw it away, his indecisveness and accuracy problems have held the offense back. A R&S QB has to complete at least 65 percent of his passes for the offense to really start humming.


Look, is he clicking on all cylinders? No. But if he starts most of our games next year, he will have pretty much every record held by any QB ever in SMU history. So he's doing something right, isn't he?

Plus, again, this is our 2ND YEAR IN A ROW to go to a bowl game. Let's lighten up a bit and enjoy the ride.




I agree he is on track to hold every QB passing record in school history and yes that does mean he is doing something right, he's just not doing enough right and that's why our offense hasn't taken off. I'm seriously questioning whether it ever well with him at QB. Though he should perform adequately enough to get us to bowls the next 2 seasons though I'm not seeing more than 8 wins in either season.
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Re: Loss: All Padron

Postby reddevil » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:12 pm

The defense played well today, especially in light of the injuries to Moore and Yenga. If Jones decline the penalty on the first drive, UCF kicks a FG and the D only gives up 13. Our O-line played well too, doesn't UCF have the most sacks/best pass rush in conference. Padron had a bad game and was clearly rattled. I don't understand why he refused to throw the ball away all game. Padron is an alright QB and I expect to see him back from game one next year. The most troubling thing is his lack of progression since the Hawaii Bowl last year. He made very marginal improvements this year, if that, but the next QB battle will likely be between Kaiser and Preston once Padron graduates.
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