Gilbert at practice?

[Pony ^]

Isn't SMU's offense more complicated than UT's

I wouldn't say so anymore...last year, yes. But this year, Harsin (old boise oc) draws up some crazy confusing plays

[goldenstang]

How did it work with Robert Griffin? I know he got hurt his sophomore year but is considered a redshirt junior everywhere you look it up. It must be addressed earlier in some specific cases or something. Griffin got hurt in the 3rd game of this true sophomore year and has played two seasons since. It seems to me that this case is somewhat similar to Gilberts. I really don't believe that Gilbert will have more than 2 seasons to play one at SMU.

[Cadillac]

regular eligibility runs out in 2012.

I thought that regular eligibility accounted for a possible redshirt year, which Gilbert hasn't had yet, which would be applied to the 2012 Season. This would give him his 4th year playing in 2013.

I thought Transfer scenarios always counted the redshirt year as the "year off" when available, but then agian, I could just be making [deleted] up.

-CoS

[Stallion]

find an example of someone that redshirted after a year counted as a medical hardship. I don't think that is allowed. Here are examples of players who got the medical waiver 6th year after missing 2nd years including a redshirt year and THEN a medical redshirt year:

Ramon Flanigan
Case Keenum
Jason White
Jordan Shipley
Rock Dennis

[Wuba]

find an example of someone that redshirted after a year counted as a medical hardship. Here are examples of players who got the medical waiver 6th year after missing 2nd years:

Ramon Flanigan
Case Keenum
Jason White
Jordan Shipley
Rock Dennis

Can you show me in the rule on medical waivers where it says anything about about not being able to redshirt after getting a medical hardship? I could not find it.

[Nacho]

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co ... -practice/

[Cadillac]

find an example of someone that redshirted after a year counted as a medical hardship. I don't think that is allowed. Here are examples of players who got the medical waiver 6th year after missing 2nd years including a redshirt year and THEN a medical redshirt year:

Ramon Flanigan
Case Keenum
Jason White
Jordan Shipley
Rock Dennis

While it's true that finding an example would be proof positive that at some point this was how the rule worked, I don't have an example. I'm simply trying to understand the rule.

-CoS

[Junior]

does the fact that he graduated already have anything to do with his eligibility?

From Baylor website:

Fourth-year junior, athletic, play-making dual-threat quarterback made successful comeback from season-ending knee surgery (ended 2009 season in third game, hardship waiver resulted in redshirt season) to earn 2010 All-Big 12 honors...Graduated from Baylor in December 2010 with a degree in political science three years after enrolling at Baylor.

2009 (Redshirt): Started season's first three games at quarterback before sustaining season-ending knee injury in third game of true sophomore season in 2009... Threw for 481 yards in two-and-one-half games on season (45-for-69 completions) with four TDs and zero interceptions... Also ran for 77 yards and two scores on 27 carries... On watch lists for Manning, Maxwell and O'Brien Awards...2010 Arthur Ashe Overall Sports Scholar Award finalist... Named to Baylor's Dean's List in spring 2009 and fall 2010 and Big 12 Commissioner's Honor Roll in fall 2009 and spring 2010... Totaled 136 yards passing and 41 yards rushing in season-opening win at Wake Forest... Also had one TD pass and 59-yard punt in Wake win... Threw for 119 yards and rushed for 20 yards and two touchdowns in second game vs. UConn... Suffered non-contact isolated tear to anterior cruciate ligament in right knee during first series of third game of season (ninth quarter of season) vs. Northwestern State... Played remainder of first half (eight total series) with bandaged knee and totaled 226 yards while completing 13 of 19 passes for three touchdowns without an interception... Hardship waiver request approved by Big 12 Conference in November 2009, resulting in redshirt season for 2009... Knee surgery in October 2009... Preseason publication honors: Big 12's "Best Athlete" (Sporting News); Big 12's "Toughest to bring down" (Lindy's); Big 12's "Best Running QB" (Sporting News); Big 12's "Best Scrambler" (Lindy's).

[Stallion]

its a 5 year window rule. Griffin will try and should get medical redshirt for 2011. The NCAA treats that year as if it never existed. Same with Gilbert. So Gilbert would be entering his Junior year eligibility wise in 2012 which is a year he must sit out to establish eligibility. Therefore he enters 2013 as a Senior eligibility wise. His 5 years are up. He can't go back and take a hardship waiver for a year he was already entitled to take a medical redshirt.

[Junior]

its a 5 year window rule. Griffin will try and should get medical redshirt for 2011. The NCAA treats that year as if it never existed. So Gilbert would be entering his Junior year eligibility wise in 2012 which is a year he must sit out to establish eligibility. Therefore he enters 2013 as a Senior eligibility wise. His 5 years are up. He can't go back and take a hardship waiver for a year he was already entitled to take a medical redshirt.

please explain the bold item in my previous post.

[Stallion]

they used improper language. The waiver isn't granted until shortly before 6th season. What Griffin got is commonly referred to as a medical redshirt.

[Nacho]

if i were gilbert i would go 1aa.

[StangCP]

Is the only circumstance in which he can avoid sitting out a year if he graduates? if so, when must he graduate by to qualify?

Now that my previous statement regarding Gilbert's interest in SMU has been proven correct, I will tell you that one of the other schools on his short list is Boise State. I think that the fact this is a possibility (I know they have talked) shows that Harsin is pretty confident that he can succeed somewhere.

Note that his unconditional release was granted after review of his list and this is a real possibility.

[Wuba]

Stallion - you keep saying no one can redshirt after they have had a medical waiver. Can you please point us to where in the rules it says this, or even an article that references it? If not, what do you base your assertion on?

[goldenstang]

Only way I can think that he gets another year is maybe if his rehab carries over into next year and he would of missed the season anyway regardless of transfer. It seems like a stretch and a little shady but that is the only thing I can think of.