As much as people complain about our uniforms...

[Rebel10]

I like the Oregon State uniforms. Mike Riley got them up to date. Like they said that it is all about the 3 R's, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcqX3pJOhzU

[GiddyUp]

We need some tricked up uni's for a game or two like other schools. (Not black)

Could "tricked up" be "throw back?" I'd rather we not look like Oregon, personally, while still having some variety in our uniforms.

That being said, if we need to wear robot suits to attract more high-level recruits, then go for it

I think beating teams that people have heard of and going 10-2, 11-1 or 12-0 would do far more to attract "high-level" recruits than anything the team might wear would do.

How about beat TCU in a special uni like they always have from Nike - we basically get no love...

[CenTXpony]

I like the Oregon State uniforms. Mike Riley got them up to date. Like they said that it is all about the 3 R's, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcqX3pJOhzU

I hate the thick stripes on the helmet...as well as what uniforms are turning into these days (I'm only 25 by the way so I'm not someone that's necessarily living in the past) however if it draws in quality recruits I'd be all for it... Im with ponysnob though... A couple ten win seasons would go a lot further for us than crazy uniforms.

[Rebel10]

I like the Oregon State uniforms. Mike Riley got them up to date. Like they said that it is all about the 3 R's, recruiting, recruiting, recruiting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcqX3pJOhzU

I hate the thick stripes on the helmet...as well as what uniforms are turning into these days (I'm only 25 by the way so I'm not someone that's necessarily living in the past) however if it draws in quality recruits I'd be all for it... Im with ponysnob though... A couple ten win seasons would go a lot further for us than crazy uniforms.

Well I am abut twice your age and I like them. They are not crazy imo. Nike did a lot with those Halloween colors and boring designs they had. I like the copper on the helmets too. You have to have talent to get the 10 win season. That helps get the talent.

[JoeKidd]

They aren't awful. It's an upgrade from what they had, for sure.

I disagree. I think their uniforms from last season are much better than these.

Agreed, the ones from last year are better and these are god-awful.

[SMU 86]

There are obviously varied opinions which is better than everyone saying that they are bad.

[PonySnob]

Well I am abut twice your age and I like them. They are not crazy imo. Nike did a lot with those Halloween colors and boring designs they had. I like the copper on the helmets too. You have to have talent to get the 10 win season. That helps get the talent.

I don't recall ever reading a quote from a recruit saying he picked a school because the uniforms looked "cool"...........

[Rebel10]

Well I am abut twice your age and I like them. They are not crazy imo. Nike did a lot with those Halloween colors and boring designs they had. I like the copper on the helmets too. You have to have talent to get the 10 win season. That helps get the talent.

I don't recall ever reading a quote from a recruit saying he picked a school because the uniforms looked "cool"...........

The unis help while not being a main factor they do help. You do hear kids talk about cool looking jerseys regarding recruiting. To ignore that would not be very smart. The coaches know this because they are closer to the situation that we are. I think Mike Riley knows what he is doing more than than the people on this board who disagree with him.

[lwjr]

The, "unis make a difference to a recruit or no they don't" argument led me to google some articles about this subject, this article was published in 2011 but it does support the argument as do most of he articles i found. Pay attention about a third of the way thru the article as the writer discusses,
"The Attention Economy". Maybe SMU should pay attention.


How Does Oregon Football Keep Winning?
Is it the uniforms?
There is next to no reason the University of Oregon should have a good football team. Eugene is a small city and is not near a major media market, there's very little local college-caliber talent,1 and for literally 100 years the Ducks did almost nothing but lose.2 But the past decade and a half has been different. They've been to the Rose Bowl, the Cotton Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl, and last year's national championship game, and they will start this season Saturday night against Louisiana State in Arlington, Texas, ranked third in the country. How did this happen?

At the top of the list of reasons: their uniforms.

Hyperbole?

Not to Rachel Bachman. "It all starts with the uniforms," said the sports business reporter for the Oregonian.

Not to Paul Swangard. "The uniforms, I think, more than anything else," said the managing director of the university's Warsaw Sports Marketing Center, "are probably the key ingredient."

And not to Tinker Hatfield. "What is a more visible way to turn up the heat and create a personality," the famous Nike designer said, "than through the football uniforms?"3

Oregon clearly is the beneficiary of its unique relationship with Nike boss Phil Knight, a 1959 alum who has used his fortune to give the Ducks every potential material advantage. But the most consistently conspicuous portion of Knight's lavish contributions are the team's much-discussed uniforms — the yellows and the greens, the blacks and the grays, the highlighter neons and the stormtrooper whites, the many different helmets and jerseys and pants and socks and shoes, the more than 500 possible combinations in all.

The football Ducks of Oregon are something new. They didn't get people to watch because they got good. They got good because they got people to watch. They are college sports' undisputed champions of the 21st century's attention economy.

The school's been playing the sport, mostly badly, since 1894. But then it made the 1995 Rose Bowl. And then it made the 1996 Cotton Bowl.4

The Ducks lost both those games, but this, according to the creation tale,5 was enough to interest Knight. His company made so much money from the mid-'80s to the mid-'90s that smart people started writing books about what it was doing. Nike, the authors agreed, was a new kind of company in a new kind of world. The sneaker behemoth based in Beaverton, Ore., was selling packaging as much as it was selling products.

"Nike is not a production company," Robert Goldman and Stephen Papson wrote in Nike Culture: The Sign of the Swoosh. It "designs, develops and markets the branded goods."

"The whole thing happens on TV now," Knight said in 1993. "The final game of the NCAA basketball tournament is better than any runway in Paris for launching a shoe. Kids climb up next to the screen to see what the players are wearing."6

So after the Cotton Bowl loss, Knight asked the Ducks' coach a question, and he asked Nike's designers a question.

He asked the coach: What do you need from me?

He asked the designers: How can we make teenagers who are good at football want to come to the University of Oregon?

About a year later, on the other side of the country, the head of a think tank and a visiting scholar at Berkeley's Center for Research on Social Change gave a wonky talk at a conference in Cambridge, Mass. "We are headed," Michael H. Goldhaber said, "into what I call the attention economy."9

Economics is the study of the allocation of resources that are scarce. These days, more and more, information isn't scarce. Stuff isn't scarce. What's scarce is attention. The companies that win in an attention economy are those that win the eyeballs of people who have too much to look at. Too many ads. Too many screens in too many places. Too many games on too many channels on too many days of the week.

"This new economy," Goldhaber said in Cambridge in January 1997, "is based on endless originality.

"If you have enough attention," he added, "you can get anything you want."

John C. Beck cowrote a book called The Attention Economy: Understanding the New Currency of Business. "Just go back to what gets attention in the animal world," he said.10 One thing is fear. Another thing is bright colors.

"If attention is now at the center of the economy rather than stuff, then so is style," UCLA professor Richard Lanham wrote in The Economics of Attention: Style and Substance in the Age of Information. "It moves from the periphery to the center. Style and substance trade places.

"Push style to the extreme," Lanham wrote, "and it becomes substance."11

The answer Knight got from the coach was an indoor practice facility. The coach got that and more. Since then, Knight has spent some $300 million on stadium additions, luxury boxes, and palatial locker rooms. All of these things obviously are on the list of reasons Oregon's football team got good.12

But back in Beaverton, the Nike designers did their part, using the Ducks program as part laboratory, part showroom.

Blocky, standard letters became sleek, modern fonts. Wings on the shoulders? Diamond designs on the knees? Silver shoes worn at Southern Cal? "Nothing," Nike creative director Todd Van Horne said, "is off the table." The paint for the dark green helmets was made with glass beads and cost $2,400 a gallon. There were fall fashion shows.

"They look hatched from an alien pod," Bachman wrote in the Oregonian, "sent to Earth to seek first downs and souvenir sales."13

This, Michael Smith wrote in the SportsBusiness Journal, was part of "Nike's 15-year project to build Oregon football into a national power largely on the strength of marketing and branding."14

Tradition? Tradition is great where it's a sellable, marketable commodity. Alabama can sell tradition. Penn State can sell tradition. Michigan can sell tradition. At those places, tradition is the differentiation, but at the schools where it's not? They have to go in the opposite direction. And no one has done that better, or more consciously, than Nike and Oregon, which for the purposes of this conversation are essentially one and the same. Oregon's tradition at this point is the overtly embraced lack of tradition. Change.

"We wanted to be out there, to be purposely controversial," Hatfield told Smith. "That's a part of what we do that's not very well understood. A lot of the sports writers at first hated it" — fans, too, by the way, and still do — "and that's actually what we wanted. If you're purposely trying to stir up the nest and increase visibility, you want them saying something."

"It's probably the easiest way for Oregon to cut through the clutter of college football, to be undeniably known for something," Swangard said. "If no one knows your product exists, there is no demand for your product, and at the end of the day it's about 18-year-old kids. The uniforms are the key ingredient to getting those bodies there, and the bodies are what win you football games."

Like LeGarrette Blount, from faraway Perry, Fla.

"The uniforms are awesome," he said in 2008 when he was asked why he wanted to go all the way to the Pacific Northwest to play football.15

Like LaMichael James, from Texarkana, Texas.

"I loved the uniforms," he said before the 2010 Rose Bowl, "and then I got to know more about Oregon."16 And then he became a Heisman Trophy finalist for the Ducks.

Kids.

Climb up next to the screen.

To see what the players are wearing.

The past couple of years, as the Ducks were making their way to the Rose Bowl and their first no. 1 national ranking and then this past January's national championship game, which they lost to Auburn on a field goal with two seconds left, more teams around the country started wearing uniforms that made them look like … Oregon. West Virginia and Virginia Tech. Miami and Boise and TCU. Now Arizona State and Oklahoma State and Wyoming.17

Nike's designers are still working. The evolution is ongoing. All those other schools? They won't look like Oregon for long.

Watch.

Michael Kruse is a staff writer at the St. Petersburg Times and a contributing writer for Grantland.

[blackoutpony]

^ well damn

[CA Mustang]

Houston's new jerseys look like something out of the YMCA leagues. Helmets and pants look fine.

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs ... iforms.php

[lwjr]

Houston's new jerseys look like something out of the YMCA leagues. Helmets and pants look fine.

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs ... iforms.php

Not sure what your point is CA Mustang unless it is a follow up to the article I posted

[CA Mustang]

Houston's new jerseys look like something out of the YMCA leagues. Helmets and pants look fine.

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs ... iforms.php

Not sure what your point is CA Mustang unless it is a follow up to the article I posted

Just another comment on the subject, that's all.

[Fresno Mustang]

Its really dumb when a school has some ridiculous color in their unis that don't go along with their color scheme at all. But, Red and Blue with white offers so many great possibilities.

I already think that our all white road unis are great looking

[Fresno Mustang]

oops, i meant *harvard red and *yale blue