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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby JasonB » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:22 am

couch 'em wrote:
Mustangsabu wrote:Sorry, I have family in town, not on PF too much these days. Don't quite know what all the fuss was about, the visit was during a dead period and the coaches were not allowed to talk to the kid. I'm not saying JJ is a paragon of recruiting virtue, but this is a non-event. Move on.


According to SMU86 it was not during dead period. Can someone confirm this?


I think both 86 and Stallion referenced an earlier article on Scout that indicated the visit was not during the dead period. I was not aware of that other article at the time, so I apologize for perpetuating a myth.
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby malonish » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:28 am

Mustangsabu wrote:Sorry, I have family in town, not on PF too much these days. Don't quite know what all the fuss was about, the visit was during a dead period and the coaches were not allowed to talk to the kid. I'm not saying JJ is a paragon of recruiting virtue, but this is a non-event. Move on.


During Temple game week?
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:06 am

malonish wrote:
Mustangsabu wrote:Sorry, I have family in town, not on PF too much these days. Don't quite know what all the fuss was about, the visit was during a dead period and the coaches were not allowed to talk to the kid. I'm not saying JJ is a paragon of recruiting virtue, but this is a non-event. Move on.


During Temple game week?


Temple definitely wasn't during a dead period.
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby Webmaster » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:26 am

SMU 86 wrote:Also, EJ has never been banned from practice, that is Josh you are talking about.

There has been some talk in the past that Scout had been temporarily banned from practice. I wonder whether E.J. has become oppositional with the coaching staff because he's gotten crossways with June over some perceived slight (e.g. being banned from practice), or if it's as simple as bashing SMU is a career builder (a la Dale Hansen). I don't know him personally. But in either case, it effects his objectivity.

Maybe PonyPride will be willing to follow-up and get SMU's side of the story. If this is true, it won't be the first time we have handled recruits poorly. But usually, there's more to it.
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby ponyinNC » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:27 am

Why anyone is even surprised is beyond me.

After we extended JJ- smu showed its true colors. No appetite for football success. Who cares anymore.

I told Hart that he turned me from a die hard fan into one of the apathetic masses. Job well done.
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby redpony » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:05 pm

We all know that casper no-nuts doesn't have permission or authority to do anything other than call 'daddy rgt' to ask what should be done. A winning attitude starts at the top and 'we ain't got it'.
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby smustatesman » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:57 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
malonish wrote:
Mustangsabu wrote:Sorry, I have family in town, not on PF too much these days. Don't quite know what all the fuss was about, the visit was during a dead period and the coaches were not allowed to talk to the kid. I'm not saying JJ is a paragon of recruiting virtue, but this is a non-event. Move on.


During Temple game week?


Temple definitely wasn't during a dead period.


Maybe JJ and his staff confused the Temple game weekend as a "High Holy" weekend, and as such, couldn't recruit or use machinery/electronic devices. Shalom My Unbelievers.
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby SMU 86 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:58 pm

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SMU 86 wrote:Also, EJ has never been banned from practice, that is Josh you are talking about.

There has been some talk in the past that Scout had been temporarily banned from practice. I wonder whether E.J. has become oppositional with the coaching staff because he's gotten crossways with June over some perceived slight (e.g. being banned from practice), or if it's as simple as bashing SMU is a career builder (a la Dale Hansen). I don't know him personally. But in either case, it effects his objectivity.

Maybe PonyPride will be willing to follow-up and get SMU's side of the story. If this is true, it won't be the first time we have handled recruits poorly. But usually, there's more to it.


That was Josh not EJ. He and his staff have been allowed to all practices and they had practice reports all season from every practice. I confirmed all this with EJ.
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby SMU 86 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:08 pm

It will be interesting to see what happens next year.
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby ponyboy » Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:50 pm

hoopmanx wrote:EJ's shoot first ask questions later mentality has unquestionably burned bridges w both revenues...


That should give you pause. Well, that is if you haven't already long ago made up your mind that JJ kills children for fun.
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby couch 'em » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:00 pm

ponyboy wrote: Well, that is if you haven't already long ago made up your mind that JJ kills children for fun.


Well..... human sacrifice was a part of the indigenous Hawaiian culture. Ohana indeed...
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby Mustangsabu » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:05 pm

Does anyone know when it was? Actual date I mean. And the manner in which his visit was made public? Or were the coaches expected to feel a disturbance in the force?
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:16 pm

Mustangsabu wrote:Does anyone know when it was? Actual date I mean. And the manner in which his visit was made public? Or were the coaches expected to feel a disturbance in the force?


Trying to scratch and scrape for any excuse possible. I understand. LOL.
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby ponyboy » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:17 pm

It's called giving someone a fair shake. Or in other circles, getting your facts straight before making damning accusations. This method does tend to slow down the merry lynching now and again though.
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Re: Unbelievable! For all the defenders, explain this

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:22 pm

Facts are SMU had another recruit get an offer that never heard from the staff.
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