Former two-star recruits

[SMU2007]

Former two-star recruits include:
(2007) lb Youri Yenga, wr Aldrick Robinson, s Rock Dennis (jc transfer), ol Kelvin Beachum, wr Terrance Wilkerson
(2008) rb Zach Line, s Chris Banjo, wr Cole Beasley, c Blake McJunkin
(2009) cb Sterling Moore (jc transfer), lb Ja'Gared Davis, lb Taylor Reed, wr Darius Johnson
(2010) lb Randall Joyner, cb Richard Crawford (jc transfer) cb Kenneth Acker, wr Keenan Holman lb Kevin Pope, wr Jeremy Johnson, s Hayden Greenbauer
(2011) wr Darius Joseph, c Taylor Lasecki

Just saying....

http://rivals.yahoo.com/smu/football/re ... r0YNBdtpB4

Chris Banjo, 3 star, 5.5

http://rivals.yahoo.com/smu/football/re ... bgcUtdtpB4

Darius Johnson 3 star, 5.7 (the highest 3 star)

http://rivals.yahoo.com/smu/football/re ... sLX3RdtpB4

Kenneth Acker, 3 star, 5.6

http://rivals.yahoo.com/smu/football/re ... GbdeddtpB4

Jeremy Johnsons, 3 star, 5.6

http://rivals.yahoo.com/smu/football/re ... zPWbxdtpB4

Hayden Greenbauer, 3 star, 5.5

http://rivals.yahoo.com/smu/football/re ... AMDctdtpB4

Taylor Lasecki, 3 star, 5.5

http://rivals.yahoo.com/smu/football/re ... 0gKnddtpB4

Darius Joseph, 3 star, 5.5

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[Donnell88]

ClickClack: You make a valid point; I should have stated at the outset that I was relying on Scout.com. And for those of you who demand to know what my "f*****g point is, I simply say that I am utterly dismayed by the amount of anger some people have displayed in their responses. My goodness, are we not allowed to say anything positive on this board?
I made a comment without criticizing Coach Jones - that doesn't strike me as a major crime against humanity.
Have a nice day.

[Rebel10]

With all the NFL talent SMU has had over the last 5-6 years, it proves the point that June is a poor college coach.

Good comment.

[SMU2007]

8 NFL players (or whatever the actual number is) over 3 years surrounded by guys who barely get a chance to play d1 ball is not going to make you a championship team.

[GRGB]

0 conference titles
0 weeks ranked
1-10 record vs ranked teams
6-30 record vs winning teams
2-17 record vs A&M, Baylor, TCU, Tech and Houston


Looks like those guys didn't accomplish all that much as a team, just saying.

But June is a "good" coach?

Actually, yes. Relative to his recruiting.

Mack Brown, relative to his recruiting, is horrible.

[SMU 86]

0 conference titles
0 weeks ranked
1-10 record vs ranked teams
6-30 record vs winning teams
2-17 record vs A&M, Baylor, TCU, Tech and Houston


Looks like those guys didn't accomplish all that much as a team, just saying.

But June is a "good" coach?

Actually, yes. Relative to his recruiting.

Mack Brown, relative to his recruiting, is horrible.

I guess Jimbo Fisher and Nick Saban are examples of how to do it. They recruit well and they win.

[ponyboy]

With all the NFL talent SMU has had over the last 5-6 years, it proves the point that June is a poor college coach.

Good comment.

If you're looking to crucify someone, yes. But it ignores the fact that he had a big hand in setting those players up for NFL success.

[Rebel10]

With all the NFL talent SMU has had over the last 5-6 years, it proves the point that June is a poor college coach.

Good comment.

If you're looking to crucify someone, yes. But it ignores the fact that he had a big hand in setting those players up for NFL success.

What he said is true. A D1AA team can have a kid going to the pros but that does make team team win nor does it make the coach good. There is no "I" in team.

[ponyboy]

Ok, but where does developing talent fit into that equation?

[Rebel10]

Ok, but where does developing talent fit into that equation?

How do you know they would not have gone pro under another coach?

[ponyboy]

Then JJ's been recruiting NFL-level talent.j It's ok to give him some credit. Really.

[SMU2007]

He's not terrible at identifying talent. He's just not so good that he can solely recruit players every other d1 school "overlooked". He hits on 1 or maybe 2, but unfortunately you can't field a team with 1 or 2 and the rest crap

[Rebel10]

Then JJ's been recruiting NFL-level talent.j It's ok to give him some credit. Really.

I thought a lot of the pro guys were Bennett players. But again D1AA guys apparently recruit pro talent as well as Bennett. But while we may get a few players that do pan out we have depth issues with the 20 that don't. But what floats your boat man.

[Rebel10]

He's not terrible at identifying talent. He's just not so good that he can solely recruit players every other d1 school "overlooked". He hits on 1 or maybe 2, but unfortunately you can't field a team with 1 or 2 and the rest crap

Right, he seems to shy away from tough recruiting battles unlike the USF head coach. The we can't offer top players because of "the level where are" is sickening to hear but it is what it is. 5 to 7 wins per year max imo.