Saw June again tonight

[ponyboy]

June could wear pink on the sidelines every game if he made an effort to recruit, embrace the rest of SMU's traditions, and promote SMU in the community

No he couldn't. Be honest. We like our coaches to wear tasseled loafers and be just like us. We were waiting for a slip up so we could justify the crucifixion. The dude was dead the second he walked on campus -- it was just a matter of time.

I choose to be thankful for what he's accomplished here and to remember his (soon to be ending) time here with fondness. He brought us back to respectability and brought us a degree of soul long missing from this campus.

Thank you June Jones.

[Big12Mustang]

He was sitting up in one of the corner suites. It must be perplexing to him, seeing students and alums getting excited about a coach that recruits top talent, makes efforts to promote SMU in the community, and embraces the school's traditions.

Yeah, it's the same 7,000 loyal fans. Smaller venue looks more full.

It is definitely not the same crowd. More than half of those 7,000 are kids that would never step inside Ford. Sororities and Fraternities are in love with basketball because of the great job the Godfather and our team has done.


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[Rebel10]

He was sitting up in one of the corner suites. It must be perplexing to him, seeing students and alums getting excited about a coach that recruits top talent, makes efforts to promote SMU in the community, and embraces the school's traditions.

Yeah, it's the same 7,000 loyal fans. Smaller venue looks more full.

Not really as it could be a different crowd of 7,000. And these 7,000 have not been filling up Moody in years. Sellout 5 games in a row for the first time in over 2 decades. Please give credit where credit is due. The basketball coaches are doing a good job and they are connecting with the fans better than anyone on campus imo.

This ^.

[Rebel10]

He was sitting up in one of the corner suites. It must be perplexing to him, seeing students and alums getting excited about a coach that recruits top talent, makes efforts to promote SMU in the community, and embraces the school's traditions.

Yeah, it's the same 7,000 loyal fans. Smaller venue looks more full.

It is definitely not the same crowd. More than half of those 7,000 are kids that would never step inside Ford. Sororities and Fraternities are in love with basketball because of the great job the Godfather and our team has done.


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Right, the GRGB guy is just trying to minimize the efforts of the basketball coaches who actually reach out to the student body and fans in order to make Jones look better.

[SMU2007]

June could wear pink on the sidelines every game if he made an effort to recruit, embrace the rest of SMU's traditions, and promote SMU in the community

No he couldn't. Be honest. We like our coaches to wear tasseled loafers and be just like us. We were waiting for a slip up so we could justify the crucifixion. The dude was dead the second he walked on campus -- it was just a matter of time.

I choose to be thankful for what he's accomplished here and to remember his (soon to be ending) time here with fondness. He brought us back to respectability and brought us a degree of soul long missing from this campus.

Thank you June Jones.

Ponyboy that is complete and utter BS and you know it. Was there a single person criticizing June or calling for his head when we were finally winning games, recruiting 4 star players, and on the upswing? Everyone was terrified when he flirted with Maryland.

Then the asu fiasco. Then he gave our main recruiters the boot. He replaced them with lazy old fogies. He made no apparent effort to recruit. He essentially gave up on this school.

It had nothing to do with his attire. It had everything to do with his overall "who gives a sh*t" demeanor.

[Rebel10]

The stuff he told recruits visiting that weekend is what turned most against him.

[mustangxc]

Plenty of people were complaining about him not embracing our traditions, wearing black etc. even while we were winning. It just got a lot louder once the ASU thing happened.

[Rebel10]

Plenty of people were complaining about him not embracing our traditions, wearing black etc. even while we were winning. It just got a lot louder once the ASU thing happened.

I would say 3 or 4 times as loud.

[RyanSMU98]

Plenty of people were complaining about him not embracing our traditions, wearing black etc. even while we were winning. It just got a lot louder once the ASU thing happened.

It got louder after ASU because it went from a quirky thing that rubbed people the wrong way to a perceived blatant "FU" to the school, fans and alums. How justified that perception is I will leave to the extremists on both sides to debate. As for me, I don't care about his attire or even his egomaniacal personality; what gets to me is his insistence that "it can't be done here" as an excuse to half-ass his job. For me, that is just completely unacceptable and would be in ANY other job in the world. Yet, we're so beaten down institutionally that we have folks in power who accept his premise as fact. Until that changes, nothing else will.

[couch 'em]

June could wear pink on the sidelines every game if he made an effort to recruit, embrace the rest of SMU's traditions, and promote SMU in the community

No he couldn't. Be honest. We like our coaches to wear tasseled loafers and be just like us. We were waiting for a slip up so we could justify the crucifixion. The dude was dead the second he walked on campus -- it was just a matter of time.

I choose to be thankful for what he's accomplished here and to remember his (soon to be ending) time here with fondness. He brought us back to respectability and brought us a degree of soul long missing from this campus.

Thank you June Jones.

Larry Brown could show up in a pink moomoo and nobody would care. Of course a coach of his quality would never show up slobed out

[Treadway21]

Plenty of people were complaining about him not embracing our traditions, wearing black etc. even while we were winning. It just got a lot louder once the ASU thing happened.

It got louder after ASU because it went from a quirky thing that rubbed people the wrong way to a perceived blatant "FU" to the school, fans and alums. How justified that perception is I will leave to the extremists on both sides to debate. As for me, I don't care about his attire or even his egomaniacal personality; what gets to me is his insistence that "it can't be done here" as an excuse to half-ass his job. For me, that is just completely unacceptable and would be in ANY other job in the world. Yet, we're so beaten down institutionally that we have folks in power who accept his premise as fact. Until that changes, nothing else will.

Well put.


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[78pony]

What Ryan said!!!

[Comet]

Plenty of people were complaining about him not embracing our traditions, wearing black etc. even while we were winning. It just got a lot louder once the ASU thing happened.

It got louder after ASU because it went from a quirky thing that rubbed people the wrong way to a perceived blatant "FU" to the school, fans and alums. How justified that perception is I will leave to the extremists on both sides to debate. As for me, I don't care about his attire or even his egomaniacal personality; what gets to me is his insistence that "it can't be done here" as an excuse to half-ass his job. For me, that is just completely unacceptable and would be in ANY other job in the world. Yet, we're so beaten down institutionally that we have folks in power who accept his premise as fact. Until that changes, nothing else will.

No kidding. If I showed that kind of lackadaisical approach to my actual job, I would have been fired a long time ago.

[GRGB]

Right, the GRGB guy is just trying to minimize the efforts of the basketball coaches who actually reach out to the student body and fans in order to make Jones look better.

Yeah, so you actually believe that the basketball guys are "promoting" basketball to the students, and THAT is what is bringing them to Moody --- as opposed to:

1) "new" Moody (compare with "new" Ford c. 2000 w/10,000 season ticket holders)
2) 19-5 record
3) Opponents that people want to see (Uconn, Cincy, Memphis).
4) Beer

Nah, you must be right. It's probably the efforts of the basketball coaches who actually reach out to the student body and fans (this of course, with no evidence that they have even made one phone call to the student body president, IFC prez, or the PanHellenic Prez).

(edit: I wouldn't be critical if they didn't reach out, it's not really their job. Phil Bennett was very, very good about reaching out to the students. Did it work? I doubt it. I think 1,2,3,4 does more for attendance than reaching out).

[GRGB]

Plenty of people were complaining about him not embracing our traditions, wearing black etc. even while we were winning. It just got a lot louder once the ASU thing happened.

I agree. But what are those sacred traditions you speak of?

Oh, here they are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBhQxBaNnAo