Norm wonders if SMU should drop football @10:50 on TheTicket

[Hilltop]

For all of those who keep mentioning ECU and UCF, here is a fun fact: They have significantly larger undergraduate populations! I am certain that the winning helps to sell out, but please take a look at the numbers below:

ECU: 21,000
UCF: 51,298
Baylor: 13,292
TCU: 8,456
SMU: 6,300

The difference in these class sizes really make an impact when you apply it over a longer period of time. Even TCU will produce 20,000 more alumni than SMU over the next 10 years. That is not simply 20,000 extra alumns to ask to attend an event, but over time, 20,000 extra families to reach out to. It truly adds up.

[ojaipony]

SMU should respond in the media to dispute and refute these constant negative academic/admission themes that live in perpetuity. I think the administration though does kind of like the fact that they have lowered the standards without anybody really realizing it.

Exactly. On the one hand, I'd like them to do some damn rapid response. On the other, they probably like the reputation (and it can also be used as an excuse by those not in the know to our athletic performance shortcomings). They'd rather just go with "we are committed to football and championship quality excellence in all our sports" general message and leave it at that.

[SMU_Alumni11]

Agree with hilltop, bigger classes helps a ton. I hope SMU can make another satellite school and get them involved with the atheletics like a UTD/UTA situation where those students will feel part of the parent school because sadly the average dallas person could care less about coming, so our only hope is the alumni and current students.

[SmooBoy]

Neither Norm or Rick said anything about dropping football.

A non-SMU buddy of mine informed me of the time and content, hence the title. It was more of a "who can they hire to get this thing outa the dumpster?" gab-fest.

[buckwheat]

[quote="Stallion"]SMU should respond in the media to dispute and refute these constant negative academic/admission themes that live in perpetuity. I think the administration though does kind of like the fact that they have lowered the standards without anybody really realizing it.[/quote]


So you're saying all athletic academic admission/major/transfer policies are no longer an issue?...I dont think so, the results say otherwise.

[ftworthmustang]

I wonder if Gosselin even knows what majors we offer?

Gosselin only regurgitates what JJ tells him.

[Grant Carter]

SMU should respond in the media to dispute and refute these constant negative academic/admission themes that live in perpetuity. I think the administration though does kind of like the fact that they have lowered the standards without anybody really realizing it.

So you're saying all athletic academic admission/major/transfer policies are no longer an issue?...I dont think so, the results say otherwise.

Which results specifically?

[floridianstang]

For all of those who keep mentioning ECU and UCF, here is a fun fact: They have significantly larger undergraduate populations! I am certain that the winning helps to sell out, but please take a look at the numbers below:

ECU: 21,000
UCF: 51,298
Baylor: 13,292
TCU: 8,456
SMU: 6,300

The difference in these class sizes really make an impact when you apply it over a longer period of time. Even TCU will produce 20,000 more alumni than SMU over the next 10 years. That is not simply 20,000 extra alumns to ask to attend an event, but over time, 20,000 extra families to reach out to. It truly adds up.

That math is a little funky...you can't just multiply enrollment by 10.

And still no excuse. Most BU fans aren't even alumni, most are DFW bandwagon fans just like the TCU fans of the Dalton era.

[buckwheat]

Specifically recruiting & performance. Sure its great to see new majors added, policies amended but would like to see those results transfer to actual wins on the field.

[gostangs]

Just because we have had poor results, it does not mean we have an academic barrier. We had an effort barrier, and now there is not that barrier. The only barrier you could even remotely point to at this point is lack of an IPF. There is now absolutely no reason SMU could not do what ECU is doing, or worst case TCU in the MWC.

[Peruna_Ate_My_Rolex]

Specifically recruiting & performance. Sure its great to see new majors added, policies amended but would like to see those results transfer to actual wins on the field.

They will once SMU gets a coach that will actively recruit.

[malonish]

For all of those who keep mentioning ECU and UCF, here is a fun fact: They have significantly larger undergraduate populations! I am certain that the winning helps to sell out, but please take a look at the numbers below:

ECU: 21,000
UCF: 51,298
Baylor: 13,292
TCU: 8,456
SMU: 6,300

The difference in these class sizes really make an impact when you apply it over a longer period of time. Even TCU will produce 20,000 more alumni than SMU over the next 10 years. That is not simply 20,000 extra alumns to ask to attend an event, but over time, 20,000 extra families to reach out to. It truly adds up.

That math is a little funky...you can't just multiply enrollment by 10.

And still no excuse. Most BU fans aren't even alumni, most are DFW bandwagon fans just like the TCU fans of the Dalton era.

The equation should be

(Other school enrollment - SMU enrollment) / 4 = diff per year

since all 4 undergrad classes are represented. A little algebra brings

10 (Enrollment diff.) / 4 = 2.5 (Diff) = 10 years class difference

[GreenbeltPony]

For all of those who keep mentioning ECU and UCF, here is a fun fact: They have significantly larger undergraduate populations! I am certain that the winning helps to sell out, but please take a look at the numbers below:

ECU: 21,000
UCF: 51,298
Baylor: 13,292
TCU: 8,456
SMU: 6,300

The difference in these class sizes really make an impact when you apply it over a longer period of time. Even TCU will produce 20,000 more alumni than SMU over the next 10 years. That is not simply 20,000 extra alumns to ask to attend an event, but over time, 20,000 extra families to reach out to. It truly adds up.

TCU will produce around 4000-5000 more alumni than SMU over 10 years.

[SMU2007]

For all of those who keep mentioning ECU and UCF, here is a fun fact: They have significantly larger undergraduate populations! I am certain that the winning helps to sell out, but please take a look at the numbers below:

ECU: 21,000
UCF: 51,298
Baylor: 13,292
TCU: 8,456
SMU: 6,300

The difference in these class sizes really make an impact when you apply it over a longer period of time. Even TCU will produce 20,000 more alumni than SMU over the next 10 years. That is not simply 20,000 extra alumns to ask to attend an event, but over time, 20,000 extra families to reach out to. It truly adds up.

That math is a little funky...you can't just multiply enrollment by 10.

And still no excuse. Most BU fans aren't even alumni, most are DFW bandwagon fans just like the TCU fans of the Dalton era.

The equation should be

(Other school enrollment - SMU enrollment) / 4 = diff per year

since all 4 undergrad classes are represented.

Also subtract out all smu students from sec territory that naturally are going to care more about their home team

[PSCA]

Drop F-Ball .... H--- no. Get it right and do it right.