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by SMU2007 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:29 pm
If they don't understand the importance of recruiting (and there's not much evidence they do) not a single one of them deserves a job in d1 college football.
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by SoCal_Pony » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:27 pm
Charleston Pony wrote:JJ and his entire staff just didn't understand aggressive recruiting and how important that is in today's game.
You really believe that CP?.....really????? I call BS on this. They knew. This is their freaking LIVELIHOOD.
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by goldenstang » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:40 pm
SoCal_Pony wrote:Charleston Pony wrote:JJ and his entire staff just didn't understand aggressive recruiting and how important that is in today's game.
You really believe that CP?.....really????? I call BS on this. They knew. This is their freaking LIVELIHOOD.
True but a lot of these guys were old NFL coaches where you don't recruit or Hawaii coaches where all they did was make a phone here or ther because they had no recruiting budget. There was no evidence in JJ's time here that recruiting mattered to anyone(excluding klemm) at all.
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by CenTXpony » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:42 pm
I wish the best for Tom, but it seems like this is what's best for both sides. He can start somewhere fresh now ...I didn't think he really wanted to be here THAT badly...I'm pretty sure he said in an interview that Dallas felt too overwhelming for him when he was applying for the Nevada job. Edit: the interview that i referenced http://www.examiner.com/article/smu-s-m ... -wolf-pack
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by Stallion » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:42 pm
well Reinbold tried-I think he must have had a girlfriend in Louisiana because he loved spending a few weeks trolling the Bayou
"With a quarter of a tank of gas, we can get everything we need right here in DFW." -SMU Head Coach Chad Morris
When momentum starts rolling downhill in recruiting-WATCH OUT.
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by StallionsModelT » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:43 pm
CenTXpony wrote:I wish the best for Tom, but it seems like this is what's best for both sides. He can start somewhere fresh now I didn't think he really wanted to be here THAT badly...I'm pretty sure he said in an interview that Dallas felt too overwhelming for him when he was applying for the Nevada job.
He did say that.
Back off Warchild seriously.
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by PlanoStang » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:49 pm
redpony wrote:I hope coach Mason lands another decent gig. He stepped up and did what he could to keep this boat afloat. Unfortunately, tiki had submarined it to the point there was not a lot to salvage. Like he said, he knew it would be career suicide but had enough respect for the players, the school and the fans to take on the responsibility in spite of the consequences. Tiki din't submarine anything  He won 2 bowl games after the ASU mess  He didn't fall to the 150s in recruiting like Bennett did under the Ponyfans writing on the wall:!: He's a jerk for leaving after 2 games, but we'd beat USF, probably Tulsa, and possibly ECU, and UH if he stayed to serve out his Ponyfans death penalty Maybe the Tiki was right about not practicing full contact, we have LOST 16 players to season ending injurys this season. Put that in your hash pipe, and smoke it 
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by GreenbeltPony » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:57 pm
PlanoStang wrote:redpony wrote:I hope coach Mason lands another decent gig. He stepped up and did what he could to keep this boat afloat. Unfortunately, tiki had submarined it to the point there was not a lot to salvage. Like he said, he knew it would be career suicide but had enough respect for the players, the school and the fans to take on the responsibility in spite of the consequences.
Maybe the Tiki was right about not practicing full contact, we have LOST 16 players to season ending injurys this season. Put that in your hash pipe, and smoke it 
Probably because our S&C program is a joke.
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by CenTXpony » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:02 pm
PlanoStang wrote:redpony wrote:I hope coach Mason lands another decent gig. He stepped up and did what he could to keep this boat afloat. Unfortunately, tiki had submarined it to the point there was not a lot to salvage. Like he said, he knew it would be career suicide but had enough respect for the players, the school and the fans to take on the responsibility in spite of the consequences. Tiki din't submarine anything  He won 2 bowl games after the ASU mess  He didn't fall to the 150s in recruiting like Bennett did under the Ponyfans writing on the wall:!: He's a jerk for leaving after 2 games, but we'd beat USF, probably Tulsa, and possibly ECU, and UH if he stayed to serve out his Ponyfans death penalty Maybe the Tiki was right about not practicing full contact, we have LOST 16 players to season ending injurys this season. Put that in your hash pipe, and smoke it 
Id hate to know what you're smoking.... I don't get it... after all the [deleted] June pulled you still defend him... Have the fumes from their bull [deleted] really consumed that much of your brain?
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by PlanoStang » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:05 pm
What's a S&C henway 
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by SMU2007 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:14 pm
footballdad wrote:I have supported Mason as much or more than most, because he is a genuine guy and the players liked him. On the other hand, he also threw in the towel a few weeks back, so it's tough to feel bad for any of these guys. His last ditch effort at excuse making and whining about career suicide sounds a lot like his ex-boss to me. I'm sure he'll have a job somewhere within weeks of cleaning out his office.
If he is honest with himself, maybe he'll look in the mirror and realize his biggest mistake was not removing himself from the June cult years ago.
Mason clearly gave up after a few weeks of tweeting. Saw the writing on the wall I guess
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by PlanoStang » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:15 pm
CenTXpony wrote:PlanoStang wrote:redpony wrote:I hope coach Mason lands another decent gig. He stepped up and did what he could to keep this boat afloat. Unfortunately, tiki had submarined it to the point there was not a lot to salvage. Like he said, he knew it would be career suicide but had enough respect for the players, the school and the fans to take on the responsibility in spite of the consequences. Tiki din't submarine anything  He won 2 bowl games after the ASU mess  He didn't fall to the 150s in recruiting like Bennett did under the Ponyfans writing on the wall:!: He's a jerk for leaving after 2 games, but we'd beat USF, probably Tulsa, and possibly ECU, and UH if he stayed to serve out his Ponyfans death penalty Maybe the Tiki was right about not practicing full contact, we have LOST 16 players to season ending injurys this season. Put that in your hash pipe, and smoke it 
Id hate to know what you're smoking.... I don't get it... after all the [deleted] June pulled you still defend him... Have the fumes from their bull [deleted] really consumed that much of your brain?
Not defending him, I think he was a REAL JERK bailing out after UNT I have worked at a place where lots of professional people left for better professional jobs after 2 or 3 years  Ron Meyer left for New England I'm not sure I believe all you mind readers who know what JJ was thinking and when. 
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by skurtn » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:40 pm
I wonder if JJ leaving early in the season had a well-thought out reason. Letting go of the coach early in the season lets you announce quite loudly (and with free publicity on sports networks while virtually little is happening at the beginning of the year), that you have a vacancy ahead of the yearly coaching shuffle that occurs almost like clock-work at the end of every season.
It seems like it gives you a bit more time to look for a quality coach, time to raise money (and establish how much you can afford/spend), time to piece together staff, and time to recruit players.
Of course, it also means the current staff and team get sacrificed.
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by PonyKai » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:48 pm
The second JJ decided to leave early was the second he realized he c0cked up his job here so badly he was going to be saddled with an 0-12 record that would stop him from ever working again. So, he bailed.
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by Rebel10 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:56 pm
Those comments made today by Mason saying that he has never seen a coach hired before the last game and that was still the head coach until the last game probably hastened HCCM's decision to let almost everyone go today.
#HammerDown
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