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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:26 pm

Outside of the tactics Herman is using to run off players I have always thought that Herman was the best fit as UH and Morris was the best fit at SMU. Herman is familiar with the Houston area and Morris is familiar with SMU, the DFW area and really the entire state of Texas.
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby ponyte » Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:56 am

Ron Meyer worked us like dogs. Ron's first year was hell. Not Hades but hell. W e didn't have 2 days, we had 3 a days. We hit and ran hard every practice except when the equipment had to be shipped on Thursday for an away game. Injuries were incredibly common and there was no reprieve to heal.

During that first year, our D coordinator and linebacker coach, Steve Sidwell, called one of his Freshmen Lb a SOB during the course of a 3 a day drill. That player told Sidwell after practice that he wasn't a SOB and didn't appreciate being called one. Sidwell didn't apologize to just the player, but to all of us at the next team meeting. Steve Sidwell went on to be the D coordinator for the Saints for years.

Meyer got rid of players early in his career at SMU not through denigration, but by physical exertion. There is a huge difference. Over the next few years, the hard physical practices become less frequent. We had established a higher level of work ethic so there was no need to work as hard as we did that first year. We knew what we need to do and did it. We came to camp prepared and in shape.

I have told people then as I still do today, I was treated better as a piece of meat for SMU football than I was as a medical student. Meyer worked us hard but treated us with dignity and respect. He didn't have to belittle or intimidate. You knew you either wanted to play and were willing to put in the effort or you didn't. He treated us like men.
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby NTXCoog » Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:17 am

East Coast Mustang wrote:Biggest concern about Herman: outside of working under Urban Meyer, what has he ever done?


Others have noted what else he's done outside of OSU, but I think this is a funny way to ask this. Another belittling way of asking is: Outside of coordinating an offense for the national champions, taking a 3rd string QB to win the Big 10 championship, the playoff semifinal, and the championship games in his first 3 starts, and winning assistant coach of the year, what did he do?

That's like saying, other than help found Apple, what did Steve Jobs ever really do?
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby Pony Boss » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:34 am

East Coast Mustang wrote:As someone said earlier, this approach works well if you can back it up with W's...see Saban, Urban, and to a lesser extent Brian Kelly. But if you lose, it can get ugly fast. See Derek Dooley, Mark Mangino, Rich Rod at Michigan. If you don't win big players lose respect and you have a snowball of [deleted]

Biggest concern about Herman: outside of working under Urban Meyer, what has he ever done? Chad brought his offense that he's run for years to Clemson and was very successful there as an OC. Herman's offenses did very well at OSU (obviously) but how much of that was Herman and how much was Urban, who is regarded as an offensive genius?

THIS. And here may lie part of the reason SMU went with CM and not TH. You could tell how much better Tulsa and Clemson got in year 1 of CM, but Urban Meyer has been very very successful without Herman.
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby Pony Boss » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:41 am

Regardless, I agree with the other poster that said Morris is the better fit at SMU as Herman is the better fit for UH.
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby malonish » Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:52 am

NTXCoog wrote:
That's like saying, other than help found Apple, what did Steve Jobs ever really do?


Try to fight treatable cancer with fruit?
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby Digetydog » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:21 am

malonish wrote:
NTXCoog wrote:
That's like saying, other than help found Apple, what did Steve Jobs ever really do?


Try to fight treatable cancer with fruit?


If you have Pancreatic Cancer, you might as well try a fruit diet because it is going to take a miracle to survive.
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby RyanSMU98 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:26 am

Digetydog wrote:
malonish wrote:
NTXCoog wrote:
That's like saying, other than help found Apple, what did Steve Jobs ever really do?


Try to fight treatable cancer with fruit?


If you have Pancreatic Cancer, you might as well try a fruit diet because it is going to take a miracle to survive.


You beat me to it. By the time my mom's doctors figured out that is what she had, she was dead inside of two weeks at the ripe old age of 59. Of all the types of cancer it is one of the least understood and most lethal because it is so hard to diagnose correctly and by the time patients feel the symptoms it is usually too late. When she passed, pancreatic cancer had about a 6% survival rate, and I don't think that number has improved much since then. Look, I get malonish was trying to make a joke (at least I thought he was), but some stuff just ain't that funny.
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby Digetydog » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:44 am

RyanSMU98 wrote:
You beat me to it. By the time my mom's doctors figured out that is what she had, she was dead inside of two weeks at the ripe old age of 59. Of all the types of cancer it is one of the least understood and most lethal because it is so hard to diagnose correctly and by the time patients feel the symptoms it is usually too late. When she passed, pancreatic cancer had about a 6% survival rate, and I don't think that number has improved much since then. Look, I get malonish was trying to make a joke (at least I thought he was), but some stuff just ain't that funny.


My mother in law, who did not take any medicines and was in perfect health, got diagnosed in October. By Thanksgiving, we knew that it was over. She made it to January. Thankfully, she didn't suffer at the end.
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby malonish » Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:48 am

Experts say he had the only treatable pancreatic tumor and tried for sure unproven (read: bullhonky) methods of juice fasting etc. for 9 months before getting real treatment. Not making fun of him for it, just showing how bullcrap pseudoscience ruins lives.
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby Rebel10 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:47 am

Here is a video of some of the Houston practice.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/eXQ5HqoYS0I
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby SMU 86 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:44 pm

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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby tristatecoog » Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:41 pm

Rebel10 wrote:Here is a video of some of the Houston practice.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/eXQ5HqoYS0I


The president was behind him in some of the early footage. I doubt he's going scorched earth with her in attendance.

Will TN Tech be a solid win and will the Coogs be very competitive at Louisville?

Will the Ponies not embarrass themselves vs. Baylor? Will they be in position to win (or win!) against UNT? We'll see....
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby StallionsModelT » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:10 pm

Not sure how we could embarrass ourselves against a Top 5 team with a squad coming off one of the worst statistical seasons in college football history. If we show any resistance whatsoever it'll be better than anything we saw last season.

I have no doubt the Coogs will roll TN Tech. Louisville will be a good measuring stick game to see where their team stands.

We will be physically over matched against Baylor and TCU, but I'm glad we get those games before conference play starts. No one we see in The American will be anything close to Baylor/TCU. I'm hopeful that by the middle of the season we will see some of our young kids grow up and start showing tangible signs of progress. I fully expect SMU to go down to Houston and give the Coogs all they can handle. By the time we play Memphis at the end of the year we will be a pretty salty bunch.
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Re: Looks like Houston's scrimmage did not go too well

Postby Rebel10 » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:19 pm

tristatecoog wrote:
Rebel10 wrote:Here is a video of some of the Houston practice.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/eXQ5HqoYS0I


The president was behind him in some of the early footage. I doubt he's going scorched earth with her in attendance.

Will TN Tech be a solid win and will the Coogs be very competitive at Louisville?

Will the Ponies not embarrass themselves vs. Baylor? Will they be in position to win (or win!) against UNT? We'll see....


I do think UNT will be a game that we can see where we are.
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