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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby NTXCoog » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:49 am

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mrydel wrote:Curious as to why name all the AAC schools and then say 2 more. I would limit our chances very much and would think the best scenario, if they do expand would be the UConn, BYU football only deal. I could live with that.


Because SMU is a private school, we are not subject to Freedom of Information Act requests. Thus, I am hoping that is why we weren't named.

Tulane - Private
ECU - Public
Temple - Quasi-Public - I am not sure if they are subject to FOI guidelines.


Dumb question... If the 2 AAC schools weren't listed because they're private, why would BYU be listed? They're private too.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Charleston Pony » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:51 am

But for the obvious travel issues, I think BYU & UConn as football only members makes a lot of sense. That allows the Big XII to have divisions and a football championship game and leaves the core of the conference at 10 members, It would give them some flexibility in revenue sharing arrangement with the new members and also gives them exposure in the northeast which helps from a national visibility standpoint. Since the Big XII has deals with ESPN & FOX, I can't imagine the networks would have any serious heartburn over this arrangement and UConn would probably be happy to return to the Big East for Bball and other sports.

If it plays out that way, the AAC would be scrambling to replace UConn and it would definitely hurt our reputation as a bball conference. Would the AAC consider adding a football only member to offset Navy and if so, who would that be? Army has previously indicated they don't want to compete in a conference and I don't see Air Force jeopardizing their arrangement with the MWC
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Digetydog » Wed Aug 31, 2016 11:57 am

NTXCoog wrote:
Digetydog wrote:
mrydel wrote:Curious as to why name all the AAC schools and then say 2 more. I would limit our chances very much and would think the best scenario, if they do expand would be the UConn, BYU football only deal. I could live with that.


Because SMU is a private school, we are not subject to Freedom of Information Act requests. Thus, I am hoping that is why we weren't named.

Tulane - Private
ECU - Public
Temple - Quasi-Public - I am not sure if they are subject to FOI guidelines.


Dumb question... If the 2 AAC schools weren't listed because they're private, why would BYU be listed? They're private too.


That is not a dumb question. Frankly, the reporter's decision to publish the story without getting the entire list is unusual. Wouldn't you want to get all the names before you published?

Because state schools leak like a sieve due to FOI issues, it seems logical that the two "other schools" were private schools. (Since ECU has admitted it is out, the only possibilities are SMU, Tulane, and Temple.)

IMHO - the BYU situation is fascinating. From a football perspective, they are the only "no brainer" on the list. Nevertheless, I think they are going to get left out for religious reasons.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby SMUBig12Bound » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:00 pm

They will add: Houston, Cincinnati, Tulane, SMU

North will be:
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Cincinnati
West Virginia

South will be:
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
SMU
TCU
Houston
Tulane

For it to work, Texas and Oklahoma need to be on opposite sides of the bracket. This solves that, gets the big 12 further south in Houston/Louisiana. Would be awesome.

Next question - if this happens, do we put a small top deck on Ford Stadium?
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby mtrout » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:01 pm

Fun to talk about but no chance.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby LA_Mustang » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:04 pm

I think it is funny that UConn is talking about leaving the AAC for the Big East in hoops if they don't get in the Big 12 when they have yet to win a conference championship in the AAC.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Puckhead48E » Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:14 pm

NTXCoog wrote:
Digetydog wrote:
mrydel wrote:Curious as to why name all the AAC schools and then say 2 more. I would limit our chances very much and would think the best scenario, if they do expand would be the UConn, BYU football only deal. I could live with that.


Because SMU is a private school, we are not subject to Freedom of Information Act requests. Thus, I am hoping that is why we weren't named.

Tulane - Private
ECU - Public
Temple - Quasi-Public - I am not sure if they are subject to FOI guidelines.


Dumb question... If the 2 AAC schools weren't listed because they're private, why would BYU be listed? They're private too.


List BYU as a favor to the B12 to get runner to shut up for a month and stop ringing the door bell every Saturday morning at 0700 asking if they'd like to hear about BYU football.

Honestly, likely because BYU leaks like a sieve, much like the state schools.


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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Terry Webster » Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:10 pm

Yahoo sports (yes, I know) doesn't include SMU in the list that they have been told were invited to make a presentation.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Dukie » Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:29 pm

SMU has publicly stated it remains bound by non-disclosure, which seemingly would not be the case if SMU had been eliminated.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby NTXCoog » Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:49 pm

Dukie wrote:SMU has publicly stated it remains bound by non-disclosure, which seemingly would not be the case if SMU had been eliminated.


If SMU was bound by NDA, why woudn't BYU?

I tend to believe nothing said about expansion.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby HarvCrimYaleBlue » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:23 pm

It's all smoke and mirrors. It is a magicians trick to get everyone to look away from Baylor's indiscretions.


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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby PonyKai » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:29 pm

SMU was included. Scout has tweeted confirmation several times today.
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Pony Boss » Wed Aug 31, 2016 4:32 pm

SMUBig12Bound wrote:They will add: Houston, Cincinnati, Tulane, SMU

North will be:
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Cincinnati
West Virginia

South will be:
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
SMU
TCU
Houston
Tulane

For it to work, Texas and Oklahoma need to be on opposite sides of the bracket. This solves that, gets the big 12 further south in Houston/Louisiana. Would be awesome.

Next question - if this happens, do we put a small top deck on Ford Stadium?

Hey Big12Mustang is back?
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby Pony^ » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:06 pm

The Washington Post thinks the unnamed schools are SMU & Temple.

Temple is the other remaining AAC candidate, a source has told Philly.com’s Marc Narducci. Like SMU, officials at the Philadelphia school declined to comment.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/08/31/big-12-expansion-field-reportedly-cut-down-from-nearly-everyone-to-merely-a-bunch-of-teams/
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Re: B12 - did we make the cut? Exapnsion

Postby skyscraper » Wed Aug 31, 2016 6:17 pm

You don't even have to be a subscriber to know Scout said we are a finalist.
I didn't even think we'd get that far so nicely done RGT and crew.
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