FORGET SECULES

[McClown27]

If you can't tell, I support a national search and a well qualified and experienced AD. Give me someone young, hungry, and intergetic. When Bennett interviewed, he accepted the job with conditions. These conditions concentrated on more acedemic freedom and more transfer credits (a large self imposed vice by SMU). Have we not seen at least some improvement?

Who helped make those changes? Who helped to hire him? SCOTT SECULES! If you support Bennett and his changes, how can you be so against Secules?

Spare me another tired tirade. I don't care if you people like me, somebody has to tell you it is not the greatest idea to hire Charlie Waters, Dixon Edwards, or Isaac Holt. I guess Charlie at least has some coaching experience.

[Otto]

.... Who helped make those changes? Who helped to hire him? SCOTT SECULES! If you support Bennett and his changes, how can you be so against Secules?

OK, I'm going to admit my ignorance up front (to save folks some time later) .... what kinds of things has Secules done that are impressive? I'm not saying he hasn't .... I just don't really know what he does. I mean, did he negotiate the stadium contractors while Cope was schmoozing the donors or something? If so, that's impressive. Just curious. You seem firmly convinced he's the man, so you obviously know more about him than I do (which I admit isn't saying much). Just curious for your insight. Thanks.

.... Dixon Edwards, or Isaac Holt....

Damn, there go my suggestions! That's pretty damn funny, though.

[mrydel]

We can not, must not and had better not retain the status quo in the position of AD. Now is the time to get back on the map. Think big, and think positive. It does not have to be a big name, although I think that could help, but it must be a proven commodity.

Only one man fits this bill: H. Ross Perot (Sr. not Jr.). Get him in here.

Better yet, Bill Clinton.

[jtstang]

Dare to dream. Better check the alarms on the ladies' dorms and sorority houses, though.

[smupony]

If you can't tell, I support a national search and a well qualified and experienced AD. Give me someone young, hungry, and intergetic. When Bennett interviewed, he accepted the job with conditions. These conditions concentrated on more acedemic freedom and more transfer credits (a large self imposed vice by SMU). Have we not seen at least some improvement?

Who helped make those changes? Who helped to hire him? SCOTT SECULES! If you support Bennett and his changes, how can you be so against Secules?

Spare me another tired tirade. I don't care if you people like me, somebody has to tell you it is not the greatest idea to hire Charlie Waters, Dixon Edwards, or Isaac Holt. I guess Charlie at least has some coaching experience.

Don't even try to put those two names together like that. Secules was on the search comittee with 9 other people. He was not the sole person who brought Bennett in and gave him the job. Don't try and associate a positive name (Bennett) to make your case.

You can't assume you would support Justice Alito just because you are a George Bush supporter.

THINK YOUR ARGUMENTS THROUGH!!!

AD and Head Coach are two completely different beasts with completely different duties and responsibilities.

[BUS]

OK here are some activities that Secules has doen with me. And Carlton Cooper.


Scott Secules would spend time with me at City of Richardson Chamber of Commerce lunches. ( The VP of the Chamber is also an SMU band alum )

We gave out shedules and ticket voucher coupons. We met people and talked up SMU. This was back in a bad time like 8-10 years ago. Maybe right after the Malin thing. We got some new people to go to some games. I moved and was not so involved with the Chamer after that.

Carlton and I made trips to some DISD schools and gave out sports drink to the schools to use as rewards for grades and stuff. I am talking about giving away PALLETS of drinks.

Building relationships is SALES. Both of these guy ( if turned loose ) can befriend Dallas.

[smupony]

OK here are some activities that Secules has doen with me. And Carlton Cooper.


Scott Secules would spend time with me at City of Richardson Chamber of Commerce lunches. ( The VP of the Chamber is also an SMU band alum )

We gave out shedules and ticket voucher coupons. We met people and talked up SMU. This was back in a bad time like 8-10 years ago. Maybe right after the Malin thing. We got some new people to go to some games. I moved and was not so involved with the Chamer after that.

Carlton and I made trips to some DISD schools and gave out sports drink to the schools to use as rewards for grades and stuff. I am talking about giving away PALLETS of drinks.

Building relationships is SALES. Both of these guy ( if turned loose ) can befriend Dallas.

Well high five to both of them. Looks like they really know how to work the social scene.

People, we need to go outside the relm of SMU. Secules and Cooper are fine men, but not the next AD.

Running around Dallas and handing out schedules and tickets are not the ADs job. That is the job of the marketing staff. Give them funding, staff, and a model and then we are cooking.

Our current brain trust of ADs has not implemented this nor will they.

New blood will bring that.

[McClown27]

Also, Secules was partially responsible for making the Boulevaard fun. Some people in HP were not happy SMU football was coming back.

[smupony]

Also, Secules was partially responsible for making the Boulevaard fun. Some people in HP were not happy SMU football was coming back.

What exactly did he do to make it "fun"??? Last time I checked the Boulevard was created by the Marketing Department and furthered by Turner's experience.

Again DO NOT try and associate positive things or names with YOUR...I mean...Secules name when there is no proof or story linked to it.

Give us something constructive and documented.

Again you are personally killing Secules chances to be the AD of SMU.

[BUS]

Secules did marketing back then and did anything else that was needed.

There was not much money for staff back then.
That is what I am saying.

[Kappas Are Yummy]

Hm, what about Switzer?

[PlanoStang]

Secules is like the Toledo guy who HASN'T applied for the job. Never
heard of Toledo except for the Mudhens probably because of the
MASH TV series. Oops, I did remember we played them in BB this year
after MM65 reminded me they were the Rockets. Did we beat them
And, I go to a lot BB home games.

I'm not an insider, so Secules kinda sounds familiar, but I don't know
where I heard it. The point is that RIGHT NOW we need a Russ Potts, and
Brad Thomas like team to put together a Mustang Mania II....it's
BAAAAAACK campaign to ignite some interest.

That includes about a 1000 percent more effort than a stupid bumper
sticker.

[Flatlander]

Turner brought the Blvd idea from Tailgating at The Grove at Ole Miss. Quite an experience there, if you're ever in Oxford.

But the fact of the matter is still this: What relevant experience does Secules have outside of the SMU athletic department? None. He was a UVA QB that Copeland brought in and in essence, is Copeland Light. Yeah, he did some sales, but what can he do on his own? That's a good question, but evidently Elon and Ap. St didn't want him to learn on their nickel. So why would SMU?

Perhaps he should do exactly what Copeland did with Tubbs- send him off to learn and GAIN EXPERIENCE at another school and then come back?

Anyway, this is now moot. McClown will have to be talked off the ledge because Turner has publicly stated that he wants an AD with EXPERIENCE and being drafted in the 6th round by the Cowboys doesn't count.

[McClown27]

Anyway, this is now moot. McClown will have to be talked off the ledge because Turner has publicly stated that he wants an AD with EXPERIENCE and being drafted in the 6th round by the Cowboys doesn't count.

Being an assistant means that you have experience. Copeland also did not send Tubbs to OU, he left because he got the job at OU. Turner, Secules, and Copeland were all instrumental in bringing back the Boulevaard. It does not matter what Bus and I say on behalf of the Assistant A.D.'s, you people just make things up and pretend like you are right. And no Flantlander, our new A.D. will not be coming from Northwestern or Stanford like you have previously suggested; and to anticipate your next point, Deion Sanders is also not coming to SMU (even though he has the "perfect" Dallas ties).

[Flatlander]

McClown

Besides the spin doctoring of taking a single detail and ranging off on tangents that you have perfected, you have failed to ever answer why SMU should settle for the guy that couldn't even land D-II AD jobs. He has limited experience at best.

Heck, taking a guy from a D-II job would be better than promoting an assistant AD with no experience running an athletic program. Turner said it himself "I'm open, but at the same time, I think it's important to have
experience so that the person that comes in is not in a training situation,"
Turner said. "I want the best person overall. So I would say my preference would be a sitting AD, but it's not a requirement."

But yes, Stanford, Northwestern, Syracuse would all be nice sources for a new AD as well. Why? because those schools have been in a similar situation and produced far better than Copeland and his minions and they would bring a new perspective to an athletic department that has grown stale.

Whether Secules and Carlton are nice guys is irrellevant to the conversation.