Actually...to answer Stallion's question..

[Dubbya]

There is not one point in my Model which Bennett or Tubbs disagrees with.

When's the last time you talked to either one of them? Because I'm sure if they had any disagreements, they would have shared them.

[ponydawg]

I think the only way any big changes will ever made to the model is if the big time donors say we have X millions of Dollars to build the new "gym" when a,b, and c changes are made to the model.

p.s. smu athletics is screwed when the Hunts and the Fords of the pony world are gone.... SMU better fix there problem before they are gone.

[PK]

Yep...money talks. I for one don't have enough to even be considered a whisper.

[SoCal_Pony]

Blah! Blah! Blah! San Jose St sucks so it must be true!!!!!!! Look what Stanford and Notre Dame did! You know nothing about college football and yet you continue to regurgitate this crap over and over again. Put up or shut up! That other crap doesn't mean a damn thing. This is what matters. Its been 16 years-no bowls, no conference titles, 26% winning record in FB, no NCAA tourneys in 12 years, about 10-12,000 fans. Put up or shut up. There is nothing wrong with competing in Division 1A well within NCAA rules under the same standards that every other school in Texas compete under except the Rice Owls who haven't won anything since the Eishenhower administration. People thinking like you ran this program in the ground and now you want to blame the people that told you so from Day 1. I have outlined what is necessary for us the compete against our natural and traditional rivals-SMU has chosen not to do so and in fact has some policies more restrictive than Rice. SMU HAS THE WORST PROGRAM IN THE US OVER 17 YEARS IN TERMS OF CHAMPIONSHIPS, WINNING PERCENTAGE AND NCAA TOURNEYS. You bought this crap-you own it! We don't care about your excuses-and I care less and less every day about SMU Sports. Look in the mirror and you will see the reason SMU fans show their displeasure and in fact indifference to SMU athletics. We've had IDIOTS just like you running the program. The Burden is not on me to show that what works at almost every other school in the State of Texas could work here-the burden is on SMU to show that their model of restrictive admissions and policies can work at SMU. That's what matters-the abysmal failure of SMU to produce competitive athletic programs in the money sports under the very Model which they created. And yes if SMU fans don't feel like supporting the program based upon a perceived lack of commitment then that is a product of SMU's restrictive admissions and policies as well. That's why it starts with a Model that you can sell the coaches, recruits and alumni that convinces them that you have made a COMMITMENT to WIN

Stallion,

I wholeheartedly agree with what you are saying.

It is truly amazing to witness the lunacy on this board.

SMU went from being the winningest football program in America to one that is ranked #116 out of #120 schools over the past 20 years.

In human terms it is equivalent to saying at one time you had Warren Buffet’s wealth, now you are teetering on homelessness. For some unexplained reason, this fact seems to roll off most people’s back with little sense of disgust or outrage. George Orwell wrote about these people in ‘Animal Farm’…they were called sheep.

You have been the brunt of a lot of attacks for stating the most obvious of facts. I commend you for that. Personally, I am surprised you don’t devote more time to a real program, TTech and less to a joke of a program, SMU. That is the sign of a true fan.

I can tell you that I first attended an SMU football game when I was 6 years old. I can also tell you that for me, SMU’s selection of their new AD is the single most important event to ever occur in SMU athletics. If they botch this up, they will have lost a lifelong fan. I refuse to subject myself to 20 more years of this.

[abezontar]

Stallion and now I'm adding So Cal....what can I do as an individual fan to get the administration to change the model? Are either one of you ever going to answer that most basic of questions?

What's the point of [deleted] about it to us, and convincing most of us that what you say is true if you aren't going to help us figure out what we (the individual fans) can do about it? That's why I get upset with you guys (mainly Stallion) he insults, and condescends to other posters (some of who deserve it) but doesn't tell us what we are supposed to do to change things and bring about his winning model. And again I mean we as individuals.

[MrMustang1965]

Send him a private message. Maybe it's a secret formula like Coca-Cola.

[RGV Pony]

Stallion and now I'm adding So Cal....what can I do as an individual fan to get the administration to change the model? Are either one of you ever going to answer that most basic of questions?

What's the point of [deleted] about it to us, and convincing most of us that what you say is true if you aren't going to help us figure out what we (the individual fans) can do about it? That's why I get upset with you guys (mainly Stallion) he insults, and condescends to other posters (some of who deserve it) but doesn't tell us what we are supposed to do to change things and bring about his winning model. And again I mean we as individuals.

I happen to agree with you, abezontar. I have 12 employees. If they come to me with an identification of a problem, they're required to also present two possible solutions. No possible solutions=no input from me. If all someone can do is identify problems, that equates to [deleted] (whining) and nothing else.

Give money. Go to games. Be vocal one way or another. Invite discussion. Bring more people to games.

[PK]

In human terms it is equivalent to saying at one time you had Warren Buffet’s wealth, now you are teetering on homelessness. For some unexplained reason, this fact seems to roll off most people’s back with little sense of disgust or outrage.

SoCal I have no bone to pick with you, but do you seriously think most of the people who post on here don't care or fully understand what Stallion says? What good would it do to have thirty more Stallions pitching fits and posting every negative or embarassing bit of news they can find. Stallion's been doing it for years and I don't see any really drastic changes as a result of it. In fact, Stallion says that the coaches have presented the solutions to the administration with no results. So how does carping on here help?

Actually, Stallion is not completely honest about that. There have been changes although they have come slowly...and there needs to be more, but it isn't the belly aching on PF.com that has gotten it done...it's the coaches...PB in particular. That's why I choose to support the coaches as best I can and the program to keep it alive so the coaches have more time to work for the changes we all want. I learned a long time ago that it is very easy to be negative, but often hard to be positive. I also learned that I am happier when I take on a positive additude. That doesn't mean I ignore or don't see the reallity as JT likes to call it...I just don't let it get the best of me.

[jtstang]

I also learned that I am happier when I take on a positive additude. That doesn't mean I ignore or don't see the reallity as JT likes to call it...I just don't let it get the best of me.

Nobody begrudges you having a positive attitude, PK. Even I am hopeful. But keep in mind there is a diffference between hope and expectation. At this stage of the program, everybody may have the former, but nobody should have the latter. Recent history, or "reality" as I like to call it, doesn't warrant expectations for this program.

[Treadway21]

I believe Stallion has made a circular argument. He certainly makes ad hominem attacks, which do nothing to prove his point.

Stallion, when you say "care less and less every day about SMU Sports". then why have you posted 100,000 times to become a pony fans legend or whatever it is? I will remember the statement that you care so little about SMU when the football season starts and you post something everyday.

[EastStang]

Here are some bandaids which would certainly help. (1) A physical education major which would enlarge the number of credit hours transferable for a PE major coming from another school. (2) A dialog between our admissions department and JUCO counsellors and coaches to outline to them the classes that their athletes (and other students for that matter) need to take and pass to transfer those hours to SMU without a huge loss of credits. (3) A marketing program for our athletics and school that really sells the teams to Dallas as its local team. Print 10,000 pony hats and give them away at local high schools and college day fairs to everyone who drops by the booth. (4) Have the school video game majors department come up with a game which is engaging and features SMU. There are tons of positive things that can be done to improve the situation. We have had an annual bellyaching session that is ongoing. So the question is what institutional changes need to be made to overcome 20 years of ineptitude in football and basketball? Let's focus on those questions. The why questions are important and we have beaten that horse pretty well. Now let's hear some creative ideas from you guys.

[PonySoprano]

Does anyone know where I can get a good burger in town?


(just trying to ease the tension here, boys)

[PK]

Does anyone know where I can get a good burger in town?


(just trying to ease the tension here, boys)

Uptown and/or Snookies.

[PonySoprano]

Uptown and/or Snookies.

Sorry PK, but my burger of choice is at Bailey's 1st & 10.

[Blunt Pony]

For everyone who writes on this board and says that the [deleted] and complaining "do no good" or "take it to the administration" I would argue that we HAVE made a difference. Although many of us "complain" on this board, we also "complain" to the people that are in the meetings that directly affect the direction of the athletic programs. I would argue that this administration is actually beginning to address the real issues BECAUSE of all the complaing. To blindly support a broken model is to tell the people in charge that we are o.k. with mediocracy. [deleted] and complaining DO make a difference and many of the people on this board are saying the same things here that they are saying to the insiders. Do not attack people for not being happy with how things have gone the past 20 years, be happy that there are people still passionate enough to care. The only way that we can get this thing turned around is to continue the drum beat until it is heard.