Let's talk DeMyron Martin

by **giacfsp** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:04 pm

ALEX LIFESON wrote:Martin is around 6'2 230. He needs to develope some toughness, and mabey a little nastiness. Craig James was pretty critical of him in the UAB game, for not keeping his legs moving upon contact, and running soft.

Craig James would criticize his mother if she didn't recruit his son/her grandson.

by **smu diamond m** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:59 am

I'm gonna go ahead and agree with ole' CJ here. DM does have a habit of pussyfooting thorugh the line and not dropping his head, and murdering defenders. He is NOT a small guy. He needs more heart and dedication in everyone of his drives. Hopefully he'll be more explosive and comfortable this year.

by **drs1310** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:22 pm

SMUFAN2006 wrote:IMO, Mapps needs to play a big role in the offense. I think he is the only back that is a home run threat. No he doesn't run a 4.3 , but he can flat out make people miss. He doesn't need 30 carries a game, but I think if we got demyron 20 carries and mapps 10 that would be a good combo.

Fire Phil and hire this guy! I agree 100%

by **Stallion** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:17 pm

Mapps is not a home run threat PERIOD. He runs about a 4.6. Not saying he can't be useful but come on he ain't running away from many DBs. He can contribite and make some nice runs though.

by **drs1310** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:22 pm

Not a home run threat? Do u not remember the uab game or how he ran all over ark state with a couple of 30yd runs. You most not have seen what he did during the spring game either!

by **Stallion** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:36 pm

Sorry an 18 yard run against Arkansas State Peniteniary and a 30 yard run against UAB is not the definition of a home run threat. Martin looked to be running a 4,7 and got caught by a DB from 15 yards behind in his run against Rice which went what 45 yards. A home run threat is someone who can run by DBs-for example the UH kid.

by **SMUFAN2006** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:27 pm

40 times are so overated. I Guess that since he doesnt have an ideal 40 time he is no home run threat. That would also mean Emmit Smith wasnt a home run threat because he didnt run faster than 4.6. Not saying that Mapps is Emmitt Smith, but he is very quick and with his moves he can get to the second level and do some damage if given the opportunity. 40 speed and football speed are totally different.

by **westexSMU** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:10 am

[quote="SMUFAN2006"]40 times are so overated. I Guess that since he doesnt have an ideal 40 time he is no home run threat. That would also mean Emmit Smith wasnt a home run threat because he didnt run faster than 4.6. Not saying that Mapps is Emmitt Smith, but he is very quick and with his moves he can get to the second level and do some damage if given the opportunity. 40 speed and football speed are totally different.[/quote].................I agree in that Mapps may only run a 4.6 40 but he gets to his top speed so quick, he appears to be running a 4.3 for the first 10 to 15 yards. Like you said, its called football speed. He is our quickest back into the secondary. He does not hesitate at the line. Once he is into the secondary with his moves, he is a legitimate treat to take it to the house. Of course as for as pure speed, Mapps won't out run the back from Houston or most of their secondary, but I like his chances to make a big play. Mapps needs at least 15 plays a game if not more.

by **Cadillac** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:56 am

I think Stallion was pretty clear that he was talking about football speed in his definition of a home run threat. If nothing else he used the in-game example of being able to get away from DBs. We don't have anyone who fits that mold, though perhaps Mapps is closest.

Like Stallion said, he can contribute and he can be a benefit to the team, but I don't think he'll be seeing 15+ plays a game unless Martin is injured. Even then, I would bet that Butler gets a shot as the primary with Mapps staying at the reliever.

I stand by my assertion that he'll be used primarily as a change of pace to Martin/Butler. He'll have a high YPC in limited usage. If he can catch the ball out of the backfield, I think he'll be a perfect fit as the 3rd down/Change of pace guy. I think he's a role player, and that's not a bad thing, he fits a need on this team.

-CoS

by **WorldStang** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:10 am

The only true homerun threat on the team is Jesse Henderson..

by **Cadillac** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:17 am

WorldStang wrote:The only true homerun threat on the team is Jesse Henderson..

And historically he's not much of a threat when lined up behind the QB.

-CoS

by **LonghornFan68** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:24 pm

I'm sorry, but I just find it funny that anyone would contend that Mapps (or anyone else on this team) is better than Martin. Martin is one of the only players I've seen in recent years that could crack the starting lineup at Texas and the other one is referenced in my sig (what a waste). Martin has the potential to single-handedly make this team very good and very competitive... but he has to want it. If he doesn't, then, well, I don't what else to say.

by **davidsmu94** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:40 pm

[quote="LonghornFan68"]I'm sorry, but I just find it funny that anyone would contend that Mapps (or anyone else on this team) is better than Martin. Martin is one of the only players I've seen in recent years that could crack the starting lineup at quote]

Sorry I'd take Jamaal Charles every day and twice on Sunday

by **LonghornFan68** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:49 pm

davidsmu94 wrote:
LonghornFan68 wrote:I'm sorry, but I just find it funny that anyone would contend that Mapps (or anyone else on this team) is better than Martin. Martin is one of the only players I've seen in recent years that could crack the starting lineup at quote]

Sorry I'd take Jamaal Charles every day and twice on Sunday

True. I guess I misspoke. Martin would crack the two-deep at Texas. Better?

by **SMUFAN2006** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:52 pm

Martin would never set foot on the field for Texas. He'd be 4th string at best. They have Charles, Vondrell Mcgee, Chris Ogbannya and probably even more that would play ahead of him. So you are just kidding yourself even thinking that. I agree that Martin has the skills to be very productive he just doesn't have the mindset and attitude that it takes to be great.

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