SMU to Moutain West Conference

[mathman]

Last time I checked, there were no mountains around here in Dallas. Only a Hilltop. Come to think of it, there aren't any mountains in Ft. Worth either. The MWC doesn't make any sense geographically for SMU or TCU, and neither did the WAC.

Reality check -

All NCAA football game are played on flat surfaces. If you are aware

of games being played on the side of a mountain, please report any

such incident the the proper authorities.

Reality Check 2 -

November 6, 2008
Utah 13 TCU 10

[Mexmustang]

I would think that UTEP would be the best candidate amongt SMU, Houston and UTEP. A tradition of playing these teams, time zone, and "mountains".

[EastStang]

UTEP considers itself a "TEXAS" university first. UTEP has alums all over the state and they recruit in Texas. It is important to them to have games in DFW and Houston. For that reason, they are happy with CUSA. If UH were going to the MWC and they were asked, they might consider it. But otherwise, they are very happy with CUSA because of they play in Houston every year and Dallas every other year. People who don't understand the UTEP folks, keep bringing up their name as a possible entry and from what I've heard, they are not real interested.

[Mexmustang]

Thanks...

[CalallenStang]

Last time I checked, there were no mountains around here in Dallas. Only a Hilltop. Come to think of it, there aren't any mountains in Ft. Worth either. The MWC doesn't make any sense geographically for SMU or TCU, and neither did the WAC.

Reality check -

All NCAA football game are played on flat surfaces. If you are aware

of games being played on the side of a mountain, please report any

such incident the the proper authorities.

Reality Check 2 -

November 6, 2008
Utah 13 TCU 10

Reality Check 3 - While it may make no sense for a Metroplex team to play in the MWC, SMU is in no position to claim scoreboard on the Froggies.

[mathman]

when they talk trash on our board, it is. period.

[EastStang]

Actually for a team that plays and practices at sea level or close to it, going to 5-7000 feet is rough on the players. Given that BYU, AFA, CSU, and Wyoming all play at altitude, you pretty much can assume that you'll have two high altitude games per year. That is a distinct advantage in the 4th quarter. Now, SDS, UNLV, and TCU are already at low altitude. Utah is not at high altitude since its on the banks of the Great Salt Lake. I am not sure about UNM's altitude. Even if the field is flat, the altitude is not even. In CUSA none of the schools is above 2500 feet.

[CalallenStang]

Actually for a team that plays and practices at sea level or close to it, going to 5-7000 feet is rough on the players. Given that BYU, AFA, CSU, and Wyoming all play at altitude, you pretty much can assume that you'll have two high altitude games per year. That is a distinct advantage in the 4th quarter. Now, SDS, UNLV, and TCU are already at low altitude. Utah is not at high altitude since its on the banks of the Great Salt Lake. I am not sure about UNM's altitude. Even if the field is flat, the altitude is not even. In CUSA none of the schools is above 2500 feet.

Utah is above 4,000 feet...

Elevations of cities with MWC schools (from Wikipedia):

Colorado Springs (AFA) - 6035-7200 feet
Provo (BYU) - 4551 feet
Fort Collins (CSU) - 5003 feet
Albuquerque (UNM) - 5312 feet
San Diego (SDSU) - 72 feet
Fort Worth (TCU) - 653 feet
Las Vegas (UNLV) - 2001 feet
Salt Lake City (Utah) - 4226 feet
Laramie (Wyo) - 7135 feet

[CalallenStang]

Actually for a team that plays and practices at sea level or close to it, going to 5-7000 feet is rough on the players. Given that BYU, AFA, CSU, and Wyoming all play at altitude, you pretty much can assume that you'll have two high altitude games per year. That is a distinct advantage in the 4th quarter. Now, SDS, UNLV, and TCU are already at low altitude. Utah is not at high altitude since its on the banks of the Great Salt Lake. I am not sure about UNM's altitude. Even if the field is flat, the altitude is not even. In CUSA none of the schools is above 2500 feet.

UTEP is in El Paso, elevation 3,740 feet

[mrydel]

San Diego (SDSU) - 72 feet

Which coincidentally just about equals our average yards rushing per game.

[CalallenStang]

San Diego (SDSU) - 72 feet

Which coincidentally just about equals our average yards rushing per game.

Maybe we are destined for the MWC!

[Water Pony]

MWC is better footall for sure - that cannot be argued - at least when it comes to the last couple of years.

We would never want to move into that conference - the better football is not worth the long list of negatives - that cannot be argued either.

Which is why TCU will regret their rush to the Mountain and Pacific Time Zones. Winning the MWC FB championship is the only possible benefit and that is pretty hard to do consistently with UT and BYU.

CUSA is better for us and the Frogs, if their original hubris is ever swallowed.

[Corp]

TCU will regret their rush to the Mountain and Pacific Time Zones.

CUSA is better for us and the Frogs.

Au contraire,

Frog fans overwhelmingly prefer the MWC's quality of competition,

travel destinations and superior attendance. Add to that, the realistic

potential of becoming a member of a BCS conference. The Frogs will

never consider returning to CUSA.

[mathman]

TCU will regret their rush to the Mountain and Pacific Time Zones.

CUSA is better for us and the Frogs.

Au contraire,

Frog fans overwhelmingly prefer the MWC's quality of competition,

travel destinations and superior attendance. Add to that, the realistic

potential of becoming a member of a BCS conference. The Frogs will

never consider returning to CUSA.

Uh,Corp. You might want to read your own board occassionally. Here is a sample of what is being said about your situation:

If the conference allows LV Bowl to snub TCU and pick BYU. This is the straw the breaks the camels back and I think we should seriously leave MWC. They need us more than we need them. We give this conference serious BCS consideration and allowed Utah to be ranked ahead of Boise. I hate the Bowls, traveling, TV, and now this [deleted]. We should just go independent and fill our schedule with old SWC foes and randoms like UTEP, Virginia, Arizona, LSU, Kansas, etc.

Here is the rest of the thread. This guy is not the only one unhappy about your wonderful MWC.
http://www.killerfrogs.com/msgboard/ind ... opic=88577

[mathman]

Here is what Graham Waston had to say about your bowl prospects.

John (Boston, MA): Could we realistically see TCU v. Boise State in the Poinsettia Bowl? BYU seems like a lock for the Vegas which would push TCU to the PB. What needs to happen for BSU to go join them in what would be one of the best non-BCS league games.

Graham Watson: Why do you think TCU is a lock for the LV Bowl? The MWC has no set order. The best team has traditionally gone to the LV Bowl, but the best team is going to the BCS. So, the LV Bowl is leaning toward taking the team that will fill the hotels (game is already sold out, I believe). Everyone knows TCU doesn't travel, and the Poinsettia Bowl doesn't care because it's money maker is the Holiday Bowl. And for Boise to play in the bowl, the WAC would have to force the Humanitarian Bowl to give up its home team, which I'm not sure is going to happen.