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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby RE Tycoon » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:31 pm

There is no doubt that losing Houston hurts CUSA and therefore us. I think the MWC is weak, but the perception will maintain that CUSA is weaker.
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby Hoop Fan » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:47 pm

Trading La Tech for Houston, or SMU for that matter, would be no small blow to CUSA West. Whether you think UH would be gaining anything by doing it is irrelevant, as many have said, the mere perception of it would be a huge negative at this point. Hope it doesnt happen but the next move by the MWC is anybodys guess right now. I do think BYU will end up staying, its what happens next that is completely up for grabs to me. The Utah State dynamic is a real wildcard given they got hosed in last weeks maneuvering and share a state legislature with byu.
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby StallionsModelT » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:53 pm

At this point we should root for one of the following IMO:

1. BYU bolts the MWC and goes indy; MWC starts to crumble apart.
2. BYU stays up in the MWC; Utah State gets an invite and the MWC is done w/ expansion..for now
3. CUSA/MWC Merger (Dream Scenario)


Houston leaving CUSA and replacing them with La Tech puts CUSA just barely a notch above Sun Belt while two of our recruiting rivals (TCU and Houston) will be in the premier non BCS conference in the nation. This would have a very significant impact on us.
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby Hoop Fan » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:58 pm

StallionsModelT wrote:At this point we should root for one of the following IMO:

1. BYU bolts the MWC and goes indy; MWC starts to crumble apart.
2. BYU stays up in the MWC; Utah State gets an invite and the MWC is done w/ expansion..for now
3. CUSA/MWC Merger (Dream Scenario)


Houston leaving CUSA and replacing them with La Tech puts CUSA just barely a notch above Sun Belt while two of our recruiting rivals (TCU and Houston) will be in the premier non BCS conference in the nation. This would have a very significant impact on us.


yep, which is why i would suggest we even have to try to buy our way into MWC (and nudge houston out) regardless of how much of an upgrade it really is. The program has to start being seen as desirable and we cant just be content to sit around and wait for the big boys to make another move. Orsini comments about the big boys worry me. We can always move again later, but gotta upgrade every chance because you really dont know when and if the next one is coming.
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby StallionsModelT » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:01 pm

I don't see any way we can "buy" our way ahead of Houston into the MWC. There are still so many variables to play out before we know what goes down. Everything hinges on BYU right now. Until September 1st there are going to be a lot of programs holding their collective breath.
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby Hoop Fan » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:09 pm

StallionsModelT wrote:I don't see any way we can "buy" our way ahead of Houston into the MWC. There are still so many variables to play out before we know what goes down. Everything hinges on BYU right now. Until September 1st there are going to be a lot of programs holding their collective breath.


maybe not, but with a league short on tv revenue (and having to give up some of the already small pie to keep BYU), i'd sure try. this is an instance where the June Jones factor and what he did at Hawaii might get our foot in the door and allow us to buy our way in for more $ than Houston can come up with. My point is i hope our admin has not accepted the common knowledge that Houston is next in line.
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby NickSMU17 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:11 pm

I really wish the most powerful non-aq alumni in the country (outside the Ivy) would step up again...

The COC came through huge with JJ, and they could easily put some pressure on decision makers...I hope they are trying...
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby StallionsModelT » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:14 pm

What kind of money are we talking about here? I'd have to think Houston will do whatever they have to to stay above us in the pecking order. Is it worth 20M to join the MWC with no gaurantee of BCS inclusion?
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby NickSMU17 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:21 pm

If USU goes to MWC, frogs have found greener pastures...
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby StallionsModelT » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:27 pm

Nick,

What the hell? How do you figure?
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby SMU89 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:32 pm

NickSMU17 wrote:If USU goes to MWC, frogs have found greener pastures...


A newly formed conference.
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby StallionsModelT » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:34 pm

I call bullsh*t on that.
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby NickSMU17 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:35 pm

There is no chance in hell the frogs are going to go back to the WAC...with Utah gone and BYU on the cusp...TCU has all the power right now in MWC...

If they agree to USU, they are doing it b/c they know they are out of there soon or they are very dumb...
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Re: BYU to Stay, UH to MWC?

Postby StallionsModelT » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:41 pm

They won't have a say in the matter. They'll allow Utah State and like it. BYU is running that show. Not TCU.
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