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Re: Fan Reflection, Inclusive Environment=Filling Stadium

Postby LHS81 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:10 pm

You're not alone Joe. I understand what you're saying. . . If it's done in a good nature way, I have no problem with heckling visiting teams & fans. It's called a home field advantage, and making it as uncomfortable (legally speaking) as possible for the visiting team. . . Judging by the comments though, it looks like SMU fans would rather give the opposing team a standing ovation when introduced.
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Re: Fan Reflection, Inclusive Environment=Filling Stadium

Postby sbsmith » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:12 pm

LHS81 wrote:You're not alone Joe. I understand what you're saying. . . If it's done in a good nature way, I have no problem with heckling visiting teams & fans. It's called a home field advantage, and making it as uncomfortable (legally speaking) as possible for the visiting team. . . Judging by the comments though, it looks like SMU fans would rather give the opposing team a standing ovation when introduced.



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Re: Fan Reflection, Inclusive Environment=Filling Stadium

Postby DiamondM » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:22 pm

JoeKidd wrote:Yep, I think that's the moral to the story and really my original point (that was proven by how everyone jumped on me like a duck on a june bug for daring to heckle) and that is the vast, vast majority of SMU fans are lilly-white, soft and are only comfortable around their own kind, which does not make it an inclusive environment that people from the rest of the greater Dallas community that might want to have some drinks and be a rowdy football game can partake in.

Honestly the crowd I saw at the AAC for the Barnum & Bailey Circus was rowdier than our fans against Tech. I have witnessed this for a long-time now and am just about resigned to the fact.


You obviously know nothing about me. You can be rowdy and loud without being an arse to opposing fans. I do forgive students a bit of loud, group directed, creative general heckling of opposing players, refs, and general populations from opposing schools. It's the direct harrassment of particular opposing fans, which you seem to be so proud of, that I take issue with. Also, it seems less appropriate for me as an adult (or presumably you, since you're not talking about the student section) to yell the stuff I did as a student to opposing players and other students. It was fine when we were peers, but now it would be over the top for me to loudly yell the following handful of examples, all of which I actually did while a student at SMU or while a law student Cameron Crazie at Duke. In fact, I cringe at some (not all) of these now that I know better.

-"At least we don't have to go back to Lubbock, where the sheep outnumber the women."
-Asking (yelling) at Oliver Miller of the Arkansas Razorbacks after he missed a freethrow to miss another just for me (he winked at me an made his second)
-Chanting to a Vandy basketball player with the unfortunate last name of Bates while shooting a free throw: "Master Bates" And then when he missed, "Too much wrist."
-Chanting "You shot the sheriff" to players with dreds while shooting freethrows
-Chanting "High School Education" in response to the Wisconsin Band who were chanting "High School Band" at the Duke band at the 1994 Hall of Fame Bowl
-Calling height challenged basketball players (which means they were probably still average height) Webster or yelling "whatchu talking about Willis?"

And don't even ask me about alternative lyrics to UT, A&M, TCU, Rice, Baylor, UTEP, Michigan, Carolina, or NCSTate fight songs. Funny then, but many not appropriate for public consumption now (unless I'm really really drunk, which also doesn't happen too often now that I'm an adult and mother of 2 myself).
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