We are one of those teams

[LA_Mustang]

Let's be like Georgetown. Drop football and put all our resources in basketball. We are a basketball school now.

[NY Pony]

Let's be like Georgetown. Drop football and put all our resources in basketball. We are a basketball school now.

Georgetown has football. Patriot League.

[couch 'em]

I just find it interesting that the primary advocates of us stepping down are one that sports an LSU avatar and one that graduated fromTCU. Perhaps those of us without split loyalties would like for us to find a way to solve the problem rather than run from it.

similar people running the school is why we are in this mess.

[BRStang]

I just find it interesting that the primary advocates of us stepping down are one that sports an LSU avatar and one that graduated fromTCU. Perhaps those of us without split loyalties would like for us to find a way to solve the problem rather than run from it.

Exactly. At this point it's go for it or close shop, don't accept infinite mediocrity against mediocre teams. We want more. Period. I don't have another college team to root for mainly because I hate all the other teams plus I hate the nfl and only watch certain ones with our players on it.

We did "go for it" but we came up short, mainly because we didn't build on the momentum from the first Hawaii Bowl win and all the 30 for 30 publicity, etc. Instead of putting the pedal to the metal, we stagnated and kept JJ around too long instead of getting rid of him when he went for the ASU job. We disrespected ourselves yet again, and that to me in hindsight may have been the final nail in the coffin. The American is going to be rated lower than the MWC next year for sure. Not saying it wasn't the best move at the time, but it just wasn't enough, especially when we elected to bring on Tulane and the other never-will-be's rather than holding out and trying to work with the BYU's and Boise's.

Mrydel, I'm just looking at the landscape here, and it isn't pretty. We are regressing even now at a time when the music has stopped and there are no more chairs left. We barely beat Montana State for goodness sake. The cupboard is bare yet again and we seem to be directionless in all respects in football. I'm still here, but my weekends have been much less depressing since I stopped having expectations about SMU football and "hoping" for some sort of miracle against the aTm's season after season.

By the way, I would love for you to be right, but I fully expect Rutgers to slaughter us.

[dbone]

I just find it interesting that the primary advocates of us stepping down are one that sports an LSU avatar and one that graduated fromTCU. Perhaps those of us without split loyalties would like for us to find a way to solve the problem rather than run from it.

similar people running the school is why we are in this mess.

Yeah...those in charge speak Latin. They don't understand our culture...and don't want to.

[mrydel]

Mrydel, I'm just looking at the landscape here, and it isn't pretty. We are regressing even now at a time when the music has stopped and there are no more chairs left. We barely beat Montana State for goodness sake. The cupboard is bare yet again and we seem to be directionless in all respects in football. I'm still here, but my weekends have been much less depressing since I stopped having expectations about SMU football and "hoping" for some sort of miracle against the aTm's season after season.

By the way, I would love for you to be right, but I fully expect Rutgers to slaughter us.

If we were to get a group in here that could recruit and formulate a team that is ready to play in game one instead of treating OOC as preseason, I believe we could become competitive. I am not saying we would be in the playoff in 2 years, I am saying competitive D-1 football such as TCU, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Stanford, etc. in a few years.

I understand your opinions, but again, you have LSU to fall back on. Old Mins is a TCU grad and although he has ties to SMU he has another team to fall back on. Heck, even Stallion has Texas Tech to fall back on if he were to choose to let us drop down a level. But this is my school. I have been on the team when we competed with the best in the country. I have supported the team when we won a national championship. I believe we can get back to a level of competitiveness that will be respectable if we get the right people in place to do this. And believe it or not I think Hart may be in position to do just that. He is gradually doing things to improve the landscape. One of the future steps will be to build a staff that will perform in a way to get us to where we need to be. Jones has gotten us to where we are and I am grateful but now we need to go a little farther and we need to do it before it is too late.

[Treadway21]

I agree with mrydel. It can be done. But we need changes and we need to get moving. We have come to far to fail - the only acceptable option is to succeed.

[Grant Carter]

I just find it interesting that the primary advocates of us stepping down are one that sports an LSU avatar and one that graduated fromTCU. Perhaps those of us without split loyalties would like for us to find a way to solve the problem rather than run from it.

similar people running the school is why we are in this mess.

Can you elaborate on this?


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[couch 'em]

I just find it interesting that the primary advocates of us stepping down are one that sports an LSU avatar and one that graduated fromTCU. Perhaps those of us without split loyalties would like for us to find a way to solve the problem rather than run from it.

similar people running the school is why we are in this mess.

Can you elaborate on this?


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Look at the makeup of the board of trustees. How many SMU alums? How many are actively involved in what happens on campus?

Look at the school admin? How many alums? How many from Texas or had any experience with SMU before applying for the job?

[SMU_Alumni11]

So true and so sad. It explains the apathy the school has.

[stc9]

Look at the makeup of the board of trustees. How many SMU alums? How many are actively involved in what happens on campus?

Look at the school admin? How many alums? How many from Texas or had any experience with SMU before applying for the job?

I would go in a little different direction on this with the Admin. Historically academics don't like athletics. They feel it takes resources away from them. They really hate football and basketball coaching salaries. That is money that can fund the ancient non-Mesopotamian gender linguistics department or the sexual politics of Neanderthal cultures department. Even at $57k annually, there is only so much money to go around. The eggheads usually shut up if there is a serious football culture already in place before they arrive. If not, they want all of the resources and will fight to make sure athletics doesn't grow.