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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby smustatesman » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:31 pm

Grant Carter wrote:
smustatesman wrote:Some years ago I was approached about joining/helping the CoC, however I felt that the group was way too klannish in their outlook. Apparently they haven't changed, because they didn't act like true Mustangs, and pony up to payoff/replace JJ and his aloha staff for the betterment of our alma mater. If this had happened, I would reconsider and be proud of becoming a member of this Klan. As such,
I choose not to become a member of "The Circle of Champions klan", aka a [deleted] :)

So they are not true Mustangs because they did not write a check to replace him? Did you write a check to replace him? I know I didn't (wasn't asked), so I guess that means I am not a true Mustang by your definition. Seems like by your definition there must be no true Mustangs since he is still here.


REALLY ?
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby SMU2007 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:22 pm

smumustang1980 wrote:Let me make it clear: this is a one year deal with the three year smoke to keep the recruits.


oh good! we would really be in trouble if we lost these recruits.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby SMUer » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:11 pm

Who are we fooling? Anyone watching our games or who has a contact on the team knows June is toast; and 90% of our recruits are thrill just to have a non-Sun Belt offer...
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby Topper » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:37 pm

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JasonB wrote:So now you are going to demean the one group of people who did something to try and take the program up to a competitive level? Just because they aren't willing to fork out a 5M buyout? That is appalling.


Appalling? Really?

Get some perspective son.

Appalling is the way we treat our servicemen and women. Appalling is 1 in 5 American children going hungry.

Calling out mediocrity is not appalling. It is a fact.


Publicly disrespecting a group that gives untold millions of dollars to your school is apalling. That's an excellent word for it. Who else are we going to throw under the hate bus today?


Our program does not have widespread financial resources of note and we rely on the generosity of some very well meaning people to foot the bill. If it weren't for the C of C there would be no Ford Stadium, therefore no Boulevard, and we would be playing Austin College and Sewanee instead of Texas Tech and TCU. The corrollary to this situation is that they call the shots.

I was criticized by one of Ponyfans most frequent haters because I was one who continued to contribute to the Mustang Club during the years immediately following the death penalty. He didnt seem to realize that without similar contributions, large and in my case modest, there would be no program today. Ingratitude is pretty ugly.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby Topper » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:38 pm

ponyboy wrote:
ponyinNC wrote:
JasonB wrote:So now you are going to demean the one group of people who did something to try and take the program up to a competitive level? Just because they aren't willing to fork out a 5M buyout? That is appalling.


Appalling? Really?

Get some perspective son.

Appalling is the way we treat our servicemen and women. Appalling is 1 in 5 American children going hungry.

Calling out mediocrity is not appalling. It is a fact.


Publicly disrespecting a group that gives untold millions of dollars to your school is apalling. That's an excellent word for it. Who else are we going to throw under the hate bus today?


Our program does not have widespread financial resources of note and we rely on the generosity of some very well meaning people to foot the bill. If it weren't for the C of C there would be no Ford Stadium, therefore no Boulevard, and we would be playing Austin College and Sewanee instead of Texas Tech and TCU. The corrollary to this situation is that they call the shots.

I was criticized by one of Ponyfans most frequent haters because I was one who continued to contribute to the Mustang Club during the years immediately following the death penalty. He didnt seem to realize that without similar contributions, large and in my case modest, there would be no program today. Ingratitude is pretty ugly.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby stc9 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:58 pm

SMUer wrote:Who are we fooling? Anyone watching our games or who has a contact on the team knows June is toast; and 90% of our recruits are thrill just to have a non-Sun Belt offer...

Do the players really think June is toast? I don't know any of the kids on the team. I know we openly speculate/dream of it, but do the players really think he is gone?
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby Pony81 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:57 am

Ummm...
This is the way it works during the last year of a failing coach's contract...
No other team wants the coach....
School can't buy him out....
Lip service is paid in the form of an " extension" ( the coach has a modest incentive to pay lip service )...
The coach knows he's done and doesn't recruit...
The recruits know he's done and if they have a choice they go elsewhere.....
The next coach runs off all the sorry recruits with his own players since each scholarship is a one year deal ....
JJ ran off Bennett's new and first year recruits. Same thing will happen with this class. Don't worry - we will only have them for one year.

The only mystery is why the school isn't honest and doesn't avoid going through the charade of an " extension".

I guess it makes folks feel better.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby smusic 00 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:11 am

Makes the DMN happy
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby Stallion » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:17 am

hell the "extension" has fooled half the posters on ponyfans-so it seems to be working
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby stc9 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 1:20 am

I was just curious, if players made comments to people outside of the locker room. What they thought about the situation.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby Grant Carter » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:03 am

Stallion wrote:hell the "extension" has fooled half the posters on ponyfans-so it seems to be working

Good point
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby ponyboy » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:44 pm

Pony81 wrote: This is the way it works during the last year of a failing coach's contract...


I'm not sure "failing" is the appropriate term after four bowl games in the last five seasons. But it ought to be clear to anyone doing their homework that JJ is not long for the SMU world.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby SMU2007 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:26 pm

Failing is definitely the appropriate term. Multiple recruiting classes that appear less talented than those going to UNT is a fail in my book.

And instead of talking about bowl games, just say "finished the regular season 6-5, 7-6, 6-5, 5-6, and 4-7 against FBS teams in one of the worst conferences in the country over the past 5 years". That way everyone knows exactly what you are referring to.
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby SMUer » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:27 pm

Every time you say "bowl game", substitute "0.500 season."
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Re: June Jones' Contract

Postby ponyscott » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:52 am

[quote="SMU2007"]Failing is definitely the appropriate term. Multiple recruiting classes that appear less talented than those going to UNT is a fail in my book.

And instead of talking about bowl games, just say "finished the regular season 6-5, 7-6, 6-5, 5-6, and 4-7 against FBS teams in one of the worst conferences in the country over the past 5 years". That way everyone knows exactly what you are referring to.[/quot

Yep...exactly
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