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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby ojaipony » Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:47 pm

Man, I LOVE what Jim Mora is doing. Can we PLEASE find someone like him after next year?!? Personally, my vote is for Adrian Klemm. I know some of you may think I'm crazy, and I know he REALLY loves L.A. But, there are worse ideas out there. I've been thinking, who is great in Texas recruiting and I just can't think of anyone realistically that would work for us . . .
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby mrydel » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:05 pm

Head football coaches are closers not recruiters. Guidelines limit their contact with kids. A good head coach needs to be a game coach and hire top notch recruiters to do the leg work. Klemm is not proven as a head coach. We need someone who will hire a staff that can get the athletes as did Larry Brown and have the coaching ability as does Larry Brown.
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Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby Grant Carter » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:05 pm

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I like the fact that maybe we'll have a running back coaching running backs. Seriously, it could work.


Then maybe we should have hired DeShaun Foster since it is reported that he did most of the work with the RB's. Just sayin'.

I thought it said much not most. Much does not necessarily mean most. Just sayin'.
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby SMU 86 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:25 pm

mrydel wrote:Head football coaches are closers not recruiters. Guidelines limit their contact with kids. A good head coach needs to be a game coach and hire top notch recruiters to do the leg work. Klemm is not proven as a head coach. We need someone who will hire a staff that can get the athletes as did Larry Brown and have the coaching ability as does Larry Brown.

Mora recruits very hard as well not just a closer from what I have read in the past. He has a similar recruiting style as Nick Saban who recruits very hard as a head coach as well. They can't phyically recruiting in the Spring but they can call etc. Once the Spring is over they hit the road during the season as much as possible up until signing day. Same with Coach Brown.
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby mrydel » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:32 pm

A football head coach has a limited number of times he can visit a recruit. I am not saying that the head coach should not be involved or should not be contacting high school coaches. What I am saying is that the assistants are the ones that play the biggest role. Just because Klemm is and was a good recruiter does not make him a candidate for head coach. A head coach needs to be more involved with coaching and delegating. I would love Klemm back as a recruiter, but I have no evidence yet that he is head coach ready.
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby Rebel10 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:33 pm

mrydel wrote: Klemm is not proven as a head coach.

I guess that would cancel out Chad Morris too.
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby mrydel » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:07 am

I would if you want a proven head coach, yes. Do not forget Bennett.

But I am not saying either one of them would not be a head coach. I am saying you do not hire a head coach because they are a good recruiter. You hire a head coach who can hire good recruiters and delegate the process. The head coach will need to be active and involved but he will not be the first point and multiple point of contact. He will be the closer. I honestly believe June could have been very successful had he hired a staff of energetic recruiters to solicit talent. And primarily local talent. Get the pipeline started. Much as the BB staff has done. Just being a good recruiter does not make you an automatic candidate for head coach.
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby SMU 86 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:26 am

Just because we had Bennett and he failed does not mean all good non head coaches would be bad. If that is the case then Charlie Strong, James Franklin, Kevin Sumlin, Mark Heflin, Pat Fitzgerald and Jim Fischer etc. would have been bad hires for Louisville, Vandy, Oregon, Northwestern, and Florida State.. In fact, rethread head coaches don't exactly do well either.
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby mrydel » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:36 am

Where did I ever say an assistant would be a bad head coach? Please read my posts before responding. All I said was do not base a head coach hire on a coach's recruiting ability. His recruiting responsibilities will not be the same when head coach. He needs to be able to hire competent recruiters. I would love Klemm back as a assistant overseeing recruiting. I am not sold on him being head coach talent yet.
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:36 am

You also want a head coach that is willing to build relationships with local head coaches and not just sit in his office and expect the local head coaches to come to him. It would be a major mistake not to consider Chad Morris just because Bennett failed. I guess you would love to have Chad Morris come back as an assistant but not as head coach. Somehow I don't think we are going to get Nick Saban or Mark Dantonio to come to SMU.
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby mrydel » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:46 am

Another who does not read my posts. I personally would love Chad Morris. I know that he has coached for a while under good bosses. I am sure he values the job that he currently does and knows he will need to staff himself with coaches who will hit the road and recruit well. And yes, he himself should develope relationships, but he will be limited as to how many times he can personally visit a recruit.

The only point I was trying to make is that I personally do not believe Klemm has the experience yet to be a head coach. Period.
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby PonySnob » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:53 am

Just remember that our current coach and his recruiting style has landed us lot of players who are now in the NFL......................


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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby JasonB » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:24 am

The concern with hiring an assistant as a head coach is the politics that go on at SMU with the academic side. I think at SMU specifically, you have to hire someone with a big name and a big rep (who is going to require a big investment), because that is the only way to keep the tide in favor of the athletic program.

It is an SMU-specific problem. That is the reason I would be wary of hiring a quality assistant to be HC.
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:48 am

JasonB wrote:The concern with hiring an assistant as a head coach is the politics that go on at SMU with the academic side. I think at SMU specifically, you have to hire someone with a big name and a big rep (who is going to require a big investment), because that is the only way to keep the tide in favor of the athletic program.

It is an SMU-specific problem. That is the reason I would be wary of hiring a quality assistant to be HC.

Wrong, as Stallion has stated that the academic issues are now a non issue. Please stop the JJ propaganda.
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Re: Steve Broussard - new coach

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:55 am

mrydel wrote:Another who does not read my posts. I personally would love Chad Morris. I know that he has coached for a while under good bosses. I am sure he values the job that he currently does and knows he will need to staff himself with coaches who will hit the road and recruit well. And yes, he himself should develope relationships, but he will be limited as to how many times he can personally visit a recruit.

The only point I was trying to make is that I personally do not believe Klemm has the experience yet to be a head coach. Period.

I don't think Klemm would be liked here because the JJ lovers hate him (not saying that you are a JJ lover). But as far as college coaching experience is concerned here is the experience. Both Mora and Swinney are good bosses.

Klemm 6 years college coaching experience.

Morris 5 years college coaching experience.
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