It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

[floridianstang]

I wouldn't mind keeping Mason as DC....

I thought about this, and I think we should leave no trace of the old regime. The players need a new staff to jolt in new energy into the program.

[DiamondM75]

And any contract must have the following clauses.

Peruna is our Mascot. Any attempt to change that will result in immediate termination of this contract.

And

You are our coach. The acceptance of or appearance of accepting another coaching job will result in immediate termination of this contract.

[Donnell88]

For the first 20 years we didn't have the admission Model to compete
Plus we've never tried the Model + Texas recruiting staff
We've tried everything else-why not try the idea with the most common sense especially if we are talking about a hot national offensive coordinator. Todd Graham is a great example of what we are trying to pull together. See the thread about Norvell and all the top young assistant that came through that program. Graham a product of Texas High School football

Didn't Todd Graham abruptly leave Pitt prior to a bowl game (which Pitt won under interim coach
Phil Bennett) to take the job at Arizona State? I'm not sure that's the type of coach we are looking for.

[leopold]

At this point I'll take a coach that uses SMU as a stepping stone to better things - ASSUMING THE DUMMY CAN CLOSE THE DEAL - for the sake of getting our program back on track.
Two 10-2 seasons and you go to, say, an Oklahoma State or Tech? DONE.

[ponydawg]

I think it is hilarious when people say they don't want a stepping stone coach....how do they know that, WE HAVE NEVER HAD ONE! If they step up it means SMU is WINNING!

[Dutch]

Peruna is our Mascot. Any attempt to change that will result in immediate termination of this contract.

[Pony_Law]

Honestly it doesn't surprise me that theses guys would be interested. SMU has a lot of things going for it and in a way is an ideal situation of any coordinator I looking to make the switch to a head coaching job.

Think of the advantages we have 1) good facilities, not the best but perfectly respectable and a lot better than a lot of schools out there 2) low expectations, you only have to make a bowl game no real pressure to win championships or having to have 10+ wins a year 3) incredible upside, any coach that achieves 8+ win season will be discussed in the national media as being an incredible coach because they are doing it at SMU. 4) a built in recruiting base that is probably the best in the country which should make accomplishing the relatively modest goals very doable. I don't care how good of a coach you are it's hard to win at Iowa state because the best Iowa recruits probably prefer Iowa and Iowa has a hard time recruiting Texas.

Our only real disadvantages are 1) an apathetic fan base which is the product of long term losing and 2) not real history and tradition to be able to leverage with recruits (not to say we don't have them it's just not the kind you can relate to high school kids like). Winning consistently and hard work will solve both of those problems. If I wanted to get a big time college football head coaching gig, smu would be a great place to build a resume and assure me that in case it doesn't work out at the next job, I can stay at the head coaching level at lesser schools if I want. Any one who has success at smu will be able to always get a hc job non p5 schools. There are a lot of failed big time program head coaches that will never get another shot at a big time program as a head coach out there.

[Dutch]

I think it is hilarious when people say they don't want a stepping stone coach....how do they know that, WE HAVE NEVER HAD ONE! If they step up it means SMU is WINNING!

couldn't agree more.

june was a stepping stone coach, he tried to use us to get to ASU (or any BCS program that would have taken him frankly). when he was trying to make that step, we had just gone to 4 consecutive bowls.

[floridianstang]

For the first 20 years we didn't have the admission Model to compete
Plus we've never tried the Model + Texas recruiting staff
We've tried everything else-why not try the idea with the most common sense especially if we are talking about a hot national offensive coordinator. Todd Graham is a great example of what we are trying to pull together. See the thread about Norvell and all the top young assistant that came through that program. Graham a product of Texas High School football

Didn't Todd Graham abruptly leave Pitt prior to a bowl game (which Pitt won under interim coach
Phil Bennett) to take the job at Arizona State? I'm not sure that's the type of coach we are looking for.

No. Todd Graham left for ASU and left another interim coach which subsequently got beat by SMU and post-ASU fiasco June.

[floridianstang]

Honestly it doesn't surprise me that theses guys would be interested. SMU has a lot of things going for it and in a way is an ideal situation of any coordinator I looking to make the switch to a head coaching job.

Think of the advantages we have 1) good facilities, not the best but perfectly respectable and a lot better than a lot of schools out there 2) low expectations, you only have to make a bowl game no real pressure to win championships or having to have 10+ wins a year 3) incredible upside, any coach that achieves 8+ win season will be discussed in the national media as being an incredible coach because they are doing it at SMU. 4) a built in recruiting base that is probably the best in the country which should make accomplishing the relatively modest goals very doable. I don't care how good of a coach you are it's hard to win at Iowa state because the best Iowa recruits probably prefer Iowa and Iowa has a hard time recruiting Texas.

Our only real disadvantages are 1) an apathetic fan base which is the product of long term losing and 2) not real history and tradition to be able to leverage with recruits (not to say we don't have them it's just not the kind you can relate to high school kids like). Winning consistently and hard work will solve both of those problems. If I wanted to get a big time college football head coaching gig, smu would be a great place to build a resume and assure me that in case it doesn't work out at the next job, I can stay at the head coaching level at lesser schools if I want. Any one who has success at smu will be able to always get a hc job non p5 schools. There are a lot of failed big time program head coaches that will never get another shot at a big time program as a head coach out there.

I think number 2 has changed. The fanbase will not grow unless 10 wins are achieved which is completely doable in this conference and with our future OOC scheduling. Our last game w A&M is this year and we only have TCU and NTSU on the schedule. Then Michigan in '18.

[JoeKidd]

Ever since the death penalty our fan base has had this weird Charlie brown meets Eey-ore kind of culture where everyone is in competition to see who can be the most beaten down pessimistic "fan". It is flat out weird.

Our university has so much to offer. Of course great coaches are interested. It is an easy turn around for someone who works hard.

Haha, love it Charlie Brown vs. Eey-ore in a pillow fight. I agree can't take the constant who-is-me pessimism. You want to win, get some swag and act like a winner. Jones is gone, let's move on, get Morris and go win!

[Rebel10]

I think it is hilarious when people say they don't want a stepping stone coach....how do they know that, WE HAVE NEVER HAD ONE! If they step up it means SMU is WINNING!

couldn't agree more.

june was a stepping stone coach, he tried to use us to get to ASU (or any BCS program that would have taken him frankly). when he was trying to make that step, we had just gone to 4 consecutive bowls.

Agree.

[Arkpony]

Arkansas fired Jack Crow as coach after Arkansas lost to Citadel in one of the opening games, telling to not even get on the plane home.

[Mountain Mustang]

Why would we hire a wide receivers coach? At the very least it needs to be a coordinator

Dabo Swinney was the receivers coach at Clemson and he got the job. Just saying.

[floridianstang]

Why would we hire a wide receivers coach? At the very least it needs to be a coordinator

Dabo Swinney was the receivers coach at Clemson and he got the job. Just saying.

And he's done a helluva good job out there.