Gilbert at practice?

[Wuba]

You don't see anything about being awarded a sixth year in there either do you.

I see a list of conditions that must be met to get the medical hardship waiver, none of those say anything about whether or not the athlete has already had their regular redshirt year, so the plain reading of the document is that the regular redshirt has nothing to do with the granting of the medical redshirt. Don't tell me what is not in the rule, point out the part of the rule that backs up your point. Given that there are now separate media reports discussed on this thread saying he will be able to play 2 years, I will stick to my interpretation I think.

[Wuba]

I think his only shot would be if as Goldenstang said he had medically verfied proof that he was not medically cleared in 2012. Even then he is not missing a year because of injury-he is missing a year because of tranfer which isn't the same thing as for example Jordan Shipley

You said on the first page of this thread that he qualifies for a medical redshirt (i.e. medical hardship waiver) for 2012. If that is not the case then clearly the situation is different.

[Stallion]

yeah definitely has 2 years at an FCS school and if he stayed at Texas. He wouldn't have 6 at Texas

[Stallion]

In common usage:

Medical redshirt= 30% rule

Medical waiver= 6th year rule

The NCAA's exact terms are rarely used correctly-but that's what I mean.

[East Coast Mustang]

Is this his brother?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/tcu/football/re ... LMA45ft5B4

Currently committed to TCU...any chance we could snag him away with the lure of playing with his older brother?

[Wuba]

In common usage:

Medical redshirt= 30% rule

Medical waiver= 6th year rule

The NCAA's exact terms are rarely used correctly-but that's what I mean.

The hardship waiver also refers to 30%, are you sure they are not the same thing? What number is the medical redshirt rule?

14.2.4 Hardship Waiver. A student-athlete may be granted an additional year of competition by the conference or the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for reasons of “hardship.” Hardship is defined as an incapacity resulting from an injury or illness that has occurred under all of the following conditions
(a) The incapacitating injury or illness occurs in one of the four seasons of intercollegiate competition at any twoyear or four-year collegiate institutions or occurs after the first day of classes in the student-athlete’s senior year in high school;
(b) The injury or illness occurs prior to the first competition of the second half of the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship in that sport (see Bylaw 14.2.4.3.4) and results in incapacity to compete for the remainder of that playing season;
(c) In team sports, the injury or illness occurs when the student-athlete has not participated in more than three contests or dates of competition (whichever is applicable to that sport) or 30 percent (whichever number is greater) of the institution’s scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in his or her sport. Only scheduled or completed competition against outside participants during the playing season that concludes with the NCAA championship, or, if so designated, during the official NCAA championship playing season in that sport (e.g., spring baseball, fall soccer), shall be countable under this limitation in calculating both the number of contests or dates of competition in which the student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition during that season in the sport. Dates of competition that are exempted (e.g., alumni contests, foreign team in the United States.) from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition shall count toward the number of contests or dates in which the student-athlete has participated and the number of scheduled or completed contests or dates of competition in the season, except for scrimmages and exhibition contests that are specifically identified as such in the sport’s Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations. Scrimmages and exhibition contests that are not exempted from the maximum permissible number of contests or dates of competition may be excluded from the calculation only if they are identified as such by in the sport’s Bylaw 17 playing and practice season regulations

[Pony ^]

Is this his brother?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/tcu/football/re ... LMA45ft5B4

Currently committed to TCU...any chance we could snag him away with the lure of playing with his older brother?

Yes it is his brother

[Stallion]

What you cited is what everybody calls the medical redshirt usually calculated by the 30% of games played. There is a separate rule for a 6th year that can't be granted until immediately before 6th season. I call that the medical waiver and it was used for Flanigan, Keenum, Jason White et al

[smupony94]

You should go into redshirt law

[RednBlue11]

this is nice and all but what does this do for printz?

[smupony94]

guarantees him a spot when he gets here

[Stallion]

Here's an example of kid Ben Mauck that played at Wake Forest then transferred to Cincinnati -was injured there too and was denied a 6th year by the NCAA citing the 5 year window Rule

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3245700

[smupony94]

Here's an example of kid Ben Mauck that played at Wake Forest then transferred to Cincinnati and was denied a 6th year

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3245700

You are giving the milk away for free counselor, you need more billable hours

[cutter]

this is nice and all but what does this do for printz?

I say it has no bearing. they will all compete, and the best player will play.
as JJ has said (or, should have said, or might have said) "the great ones will compete".

[RednBlue11]

that has repercussions i dont want to think about right now