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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby redpony » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:10 pm

OK- I recall somebody posted that 50 people might boycott the extension decision. Let’s look at some of the numbers.
If only 50 people give $2500 each to the MC and now give it to buy out ‘the clown’ then that is $125,000. No great shakes- right? However, if those same 50 no longer buy 5 books of season tickets each then there are 250 less people at each game. All of this starts to add up. i.e. I already know 3 people who will no longer support the MC and season tickets to the tune of $50,000.
I agree that these numbers are small but when they start to multiply then they can become significant. i.e. the 125k that these people are donating to buy out jj will not longer be given to the MC hence an impact on their finances. IMO this is only the tip of the iceberg.
I would strongly urge all who are unhappy with jj continuing as coach to boycott both donations to the university as well as the MC. Rgt and casper do-little only understand $$$$ therefore if you want change you must let them know in the manner that gets their attention. JMHO
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby SMU2007 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:34 pm

you'll either prove a great point, or send our athletics to D-III.
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby mustangbill67 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:07 am

I guess all those people who are dropping their MC donations are going to sit in the rafters for BB assuming they support BB. Since MC donations support all SMU athletics, pretty shortsighted to not contribute. Give up season FB tickets if you wish but keep the donations flowing for BB and the non-revs.
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby Mustangsabu » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:21 am

I'm sorry. I think this whole escapade is petulant, short sighted, and damaging to the university.

It's not a solution, it's a tantrum.
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby SMUer » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:34 am

I think whatever you pledged was listed as "pending" in your bank account, perhaps someone got crazy and freaked when they had "zero" dollars.
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby blackoutpony » Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:52 pm

Mustangsabu wrote:I'm sorry. I think this whole escapade is petulant, short sighted, and damaging to the university.

It's not a solution, it's a tantrum.


It's a solution for the people that care about the future of SMU's program, and not a solution, for people like you, that only care about giving June reach arounds
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby SMUer » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:44 pm

You can't criticize unless you can write the big check. You are petulant and entitled if you gather your dimes.
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby Mustangsabu » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:50 pm

blackoutpony wrote:
Mustangsabu wrote:I'm sorry. I think this whole escapade is petulant, short sighted, and damaging to the university.

It's not a solution, it's a tantrum.


It's a solution for the people that care about the future of SMU's program, and not a solution, for people like you, that only care about giving June reach arounds


It is not a solution. Let's say this fundraising works, then the university is going to have to be convinced to use the money to buy out JJ. I don't see why they would do that, it sets a dangerous precedent of mob-mentality running the show. This is unstable for the university and will ward off potential coaches. Unless the only reason JJ is still there is that the money was not available, but in this case it still makes the AD and university look weak, and in any case, I doubt this is the situation.

So, let's go a step further, and the suggest that SMU says ok, let's do it. Now we have no coach. And there has been no coaching search conducted. And we are going to be looking for another coach to fill a position where the fans ousted the previous coach. Raises the question of whether the AD has any power at all. And who will pay for a new coach? And all this due to a perceived lack of passion for the school, and lack of recruiting effort. I don't think that this sets us up at all well in the future.

I want what is best in the long term for SMU athletics. A scandal like this would bring (and to some extent has already brought) negativity and is rarely a good thing. If JJ's program goes the way people think it will then in a year or two they will fire him. Maybe JJ will leave on his own. I wouldn't want to be here in his shoes. Patience is what is needed here. Patience and cool heads.
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby SMUer » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:51 pm

Would you consider the Mustang Club or CoC a mob?

If no "feelers" were put out there towards the end of his contract then shame on us given June has tried to leave us twice. June was just as unlikely to sign an extension.

The point was not to literally to be successful in raising $2M; the point was to raise enough money to raise an eyebrow. PonyFans raising $2M in 30 days, yeah right!
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby StallionsModelT » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:52 pm

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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby PonySnob » Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:53 pm

blackoutpony wrote:
Mustangsabu wrote:I'm sorry. I think this whole escapade is petulant, short sighted, and damaging to the university.

It's not a solution, it's a tantrum.


It's a solution for the people that care about the future of SMU's program, and not a solution, for people like you, that only care about giving June reach arounds


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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby blackoutpony » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:03 pm

Abu, our AD doesn't have any real power. He's a pawn for Turner.

Patience you say? Is 6 years not being patient? What is patient to you? 10 years? 20 mother [deleted] years???

It's people like you that drag down everyone else with your lack of ambition to go for new heights and push yourself further than you've gone before, while settling for the status quo of mediocrity and bull sh@t. Maybe you're the kind of person that's perfectly fine with having a pencil pushing, cubicle job that goes nowhere for 30 years. If you're cool with it, fine by me, more opportunity for me.

A college head football coach needs to grab the bull by the horns and try to elevate his team, staff, and the university around him. I don't want June the "pencil in" pusher that is content to sit back and cash checks until he surfs off into the sunset. WHAT COACH EXPECTS TO LOSE GAMES?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby sbsmith » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:13 pm

Mustangsabu wrote:
It is not a solution. Let's say this fundraising works, then the university is going to have to be convinced to use the money to buy out JJ. I don't see why they would do that, it sets a dangerous precedent of mob-mentality running the show. This is unstable for the university and will ward off potential coaches. Unless the only reason JJ is still there is that the money was not available, but in this case it still makes the AD and university look weak, and in any case, I doubt this is the situation.

So, let's go a step further, and the suggest that SMU says ok, let's do it. Now we have no coach. And there has been no coaching search conducted. And we are going to be looking for another coach to fill a position where the fans ousted the previous coach. Raises the question of whether the AD has any power at all. And who will pay for a new coach? And all this due to a perceived lack of passion for the school, and lack of recruiting effort. I don't think that this sets us up at all well in the future.

I want what is best in the long term for SMU athletics. A scandal like this would bring (and to some extent has already brought) negativity and is rarely a good thing. If JJ's program goes the way people think it will then in a year or two they will fire him. Maybe JJ will leave on his own. I wouldn't want to be here in his shoes. Patience is what is needed here. Patience and cool heads.



Funny that you mentioned mob mentality since that's what kept June from getting the ASU job, didn't seem to keep them from hiring a good coach. Any negativity would be temporary and wouldn't even come close to the negativity that would be spawned by June dragging this program back into the gutter. In this situation patience would do far more harm than good.
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby SMU 86 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:24 pm

I just wish Coach Jones had not gone to the media with his situation. Not only do potential football recruits and their parents read that negative stuff but also basketball recruits and parents read that as well. I only wish he would have keep that stuff out of the public media for everyone to read. Just sayin'
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Re: Crowdtilt to buyout June's contract

Postby SMUer » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:39 pm

Does June go to the media with anything but something negative about SMU? No.
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