It's serious: Morris and Beaty are "very interested"

[leopold]

Yeah. Great reference.

Dabo quickly realized that was his opportunity to get a head coaching job and went after it. Supposedly, the start of the Steve Spurrier-Dabo Swinney feud was his first Clemson-USC game. Swinney had won a couple of games already as the head coach and his name was being mentioned as the replacement going into the season ending rivalry game. So he is on the field beforehand, and Spurrier comes up to him to talk to him, and Swinney takes one look at him and goes "My job isn't to talk, it's to beat your [deleted]" and walks away. Clemson wins the football game, Dabo gets the job, and the feud was on. Granted, the '[deleted] have owned them since, but it's after the fact in Swinney's book.

[Topper]

Diaz was considered one of the top young defensive minds in the country when he was at Miss State prior to joining Texas. It didn't work out at all w/ UT but then again the Mack Brown assistant coach curse struck a few of his guys (Greg Robinson, Duane Akina, Applewhte, etc.). The straw that broke the camel's back was the BYU game last year.

Look any current DC who is going to take a lateral move to come to SMU is gonna have a few warts. Just thinking of guys that have Texas ties and would be a part of a really good, young staff.

Diaz was played up as an up and coming guy by the UT pubicity machine. No one who watched the UT/BYU game last year could seriously consider hiring him for any level of coaching.

[PonyKris89]

I also do not care if SMU is a stepping stone.

But I also do not automatically assume that a coach that puts together unparalleled winning (say 3 straight 10-12 win seasons) could not be convinced to stay here. ...

and if we are winning big time, and packing the place with new TShirt fans, I am sorry Tortilla Tech and Okla Ags is not a step up.

[CalallenStang]

Yeah. Great reference.

Dabo quickly realized that was his opportunity to get a head coaching job and went after it. Supposedly, the start of the Steve Spurrier-Dabo Swinney feud was his first Clemson-USC game. Swinney had won a couple of games already as the head coach and his name was being mentioned as the replacement going into the season ending rivalry game. So he is on the field beforehand, and Spurrier comes up to him to talk to him, and Swinney takes one look at him and goes "My job isn't to talk, it's to beat your [deleted]" and walks away. Clemson wins the football game, Dabo gets the job, and the feud was on. Granted, the '[deleted] have owned them since, but it's after the fact in Swinney's book.

It must be terrible to be owned by the deleted

[sbsmith]

But I also do not automatically assume that a coach that puts together unparalleled winning (say 3 straight 10-12 win seasons) could not be convinced to stay here. ...

and if we are winning big time, and packing the place with new TShirt fans, I am sorry Tortilla Tech and Okla Ags is not a step up.

Depends on what your definition of a "step up" is. In your scenario both those jobs would still be a clear step up in all football-related matters.

[CalallenStang]

For the first 20 years we didn't have the admission Model to compete
Plus we've never tried the Model + Texas recruiting staff
We've tried everything else-why not try the idea with the most common sense especially if we are talking about a hot national offensive coordinator. Todd Graham is a great example of what we are trying to pull together. See the thread about Norvell and all the top young assistant that came through that program. Graham a product of Texas High School football

This is exactly right, but I do wonder why Stallion always capitalizes the M in model

Do you really wonder?

No

[PonyKris89]

But I also do not automatically assume that a coach that puts together unparalleled winning (say 3 straight 10-12 win seasons) could not be convinced to stay here. ...

and if we are winning big time, and packing the place with new TShirt fans, I am sorry Tortilla Tech and Okla Ags is not a step up.

Depends on what your definition of a "step up" is. In your scenario both those jobs would still be a clear step up in all football-related matters.

Well, in that scenario, the HC would own Big D. It would be more than just football-related matters, as we all know.

[smoodtwice]

I also do not care if SMU is a stepping stone.

But I also do not automatically assume that a coach that puts together unparalleled winning (say 3 straight 10-12 win seasons) could not be convinced to stay here. ...

and if we are winning big time, and packing the place with new TShirt fans, I am sorry Tortilla Tech and Okla Ags is not a step up.

I agree with this. Heck, even if we cannot convince the next coach to stay, that means that we have been winning for a couple of years. One thing that stepping stone positions have that SMU currently doesn't ... winning. A coach has to come here and WIN before the position can be a stepping stone. However, as you said, I am not sure, if we are truly winning, that a separation with a successful coach is necessary.

[mrydel]

Last coach to be hired away from SMU was Ron Meyer, right? I would love to see us get one good enough to be plucked.

[PonySnob]

Last coach to be hired away from SMU was Ron Meyer, right? I would love to see us get one good enough to be plucked.

And didn't he really leave because he knew the $h!t was about to start hitting the fan?


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[mrydel]

Last coach to be hired away from SMU was Ron Meyer, right? I would love to see us get one good enough to be plucked.

And didn't he really leave because he knew the $h!t was about to start hitting the fan?


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But he had a job offer to avoid that from getting on him.

[StangItUpSMU]

SMU is a solid job. Don't get why that is hard to believe. Embrace success...Larry already showed us the way.

This.

[StangItUpSMU]

Honestly it doesn't surprise me that theses guys would be interested. SMU has a lot of things going for it and in a way is an ideal situation of any coordinator I looking to make the switch to a head coaching job.

Think of the advantages we have 1) good facilities, not the best but perfectly respectable and a lot better than a lot of schools out there 2) low expectations, you only have to make a bowl game no real pressure to win championships or having to have 10+ wins a year 3) incredible upside, any coach that achieves 8+ win season will be discussed in the national media as being an incredible coach because they are doing it at SMU. 4) a built in recruiting base that is probably the best in the country which should make accomplishing the relatively modest goals very doable. I don't care how good of a coach you are it's hard to win at Iowa state because the best Iowa recruits probably prefer Iowa and Iowa has a hard time recruiting Texas.

Our only real disadvantages are 1) an apathetic fan base which is the product of long term losing and 2) not real history and tradition to be able to leverage with recruits (not to say we don't have them it's just not the kind you can relate to high school kids like). Winning consistently and hard work will solve both of those problems. If I wanted to get a big time college football head coaching gig, smu would be a great place to build a resume and assure me that in case it doesn't work out at the next job, I can stay at the head coaching level at lesser schools if I want. Any one who has success at smu will be able to always get a hc job non p5 schools. There are a lot of failed big time program head coaches that will never get another shot at a big time program as a head coach out there.

I think number 2 has changed. The fanbase will not grow unless 10 wins are achieved which is completely doable in this conference and with our future OOC scheduling. Our last game w A&M is this year and we only have TCU and NTSU on the schedule. Then Michigan in '18.

THIS! TIMES 10! Since you have joined this board you have made nothing but valid points! Glad to have you as a fellow ponyfan! Hope to see you on the BLVD! Beers on me!

[floridianstang]

Honestly it doesn't surprise me that theses guys would be interested. SMU has a lot of things going for it and in a way is an ideal situation of any coordinator I looking to make the switch to a head coaching job.

Think of the advantages we have 1) good facilities, not the best but perfectly respectable and a lot better than a lot of schools out there 2) low expectations, you only have to make a bowl game no real pressure to win championships or having to have 10+ wins a year 3) incredible upside, any coach that achieves 8+ win season will be discussed in the national media as being an incredible coach because they are doing it at SMU. 4) a built in recruiting base that is probably the best in the country which should make accomplishing the relatively modest goals very doable. I don't care how good of a coach you are it's hard to win at Iowa state because the best Iowa recruits probably prefer Iowa and Iowa has a hard time recruiting Texas.

Our only real disadvantages are 1) an apathetic fan base which is the product of long term losing and 2) not real history and tradition to be able to leverage with recruits (not to say we don't have them it's just not the kind you can relate to high school kids like). Winning consistently and hard work will solve both of those problems. If I wanted to get a big time college football head coaching gig, smu would be a great place to build a resume and assure me that in case it doesn't work out at the next job, I can stay at the head coaching level at lesser schools if I want. Any one who has success at smu will be able to always get a hc job non p5 schools. There are a lot of failed big time program head coaches that will never get another shot at a big time program as a head coach out there.

I think number 2 has changed. The fanbase will not grow unless 10 wins are achieved which is completely doable in this conference and with our future OOC scheduling. Our last game w A&M is this year and we only have TCU and NTSU on the schedule. Then Michigan in '18.

THIS! TIMES 10! Since you have joined this board you have made nothing but valid points! Glad to have you as a fellow ponyfan! Hope to see you on the BLVD! Beers on me!

Thanks bud. Glad to have you here as well. Pony up

[PonyKris89]

I feel like I am watching a puppet show here.