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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby Rebel10 » Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:56 pm

Doubted. Where have you been B12M/Floridastang?
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby Digetydog » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:01 pm

Rebel10 wrote:
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Not sure why you're hammering the analogy to Boise because their model, very similar to the old TCU model, is exactly what we should be hoping for from Morris. We are still SMU, from the non-P5, AAC conference. We are still going to have a difficult time competing against the Big 12 schools in Texas for the 4 star commits, but a class full of 3 stars with offers, combined with Morris' scheme, should be enough to win the AAC, avoid blowouts against highly ranked teams, and possibly wiggle our way into the lower levels of the Top 25, ala UCF & ECU.


TCU is the right model. As late as 2009, they were still forced to take 2-star guys.

But, every year of success eventually led to the Rose Bowl and the B12. They used that success to get 3 stars then 4 stars. Now, they get to beat up Texas on Thanksgiving Day.


Wrong, the TCU 2009 class had four 4 star players. twelve3 star players, and just four 2 star players. But the key is they had multiple offers. Stallion talks about this all the time on how TCU did it.

https://rivals.yahoo.com/tcu/football/r ... 009/189-85


They also had 4 2-Stars and 1 no stars in that class after finishing (11-2) and 7th in the country in 2008.
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby sbsmith » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:04 pm

footballdad wrote:Margus & Gilbert weren't that good? :roll:



Did you watch all of their games? They had some good moments and lot of of bad ones too, especially against legit competition.
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby Digetydog » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:06 pm

Rebel10 wrote:Footballdad and Digetydog,

I think we would all be happy if we got a few more players with multiple offers and a QB that can really run HCCM's offense.


Agreed. But, it won't happen because we "purge" the roster.

It will happen because
1) Morris and Company add talent to the existing class by working their butts off
2) Take the roster and win a decent # of games next year
3) repeat and win more every year.

Once we start beating up the AAC, things can really pick up.
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby PlanoStang » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:12 pm

Digetydog wrote:
sbsmith wrote:
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I remember Margus winning a Bowl game for us by making the other team's right tackle curl up in a fetal position. How many games did he win by blocking kicks?

Boise State is in the Top 25 again. While they got 2 4 stars last year, their team is full of 2-3 star players. Their starting QB had 1 offer.

The difference: Boise State runs a modern offense and knows how to maximize production from players. June did neither.




We won games because Margus and Gilbert covered up June's failure as a coach. They were that good.]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: June developed Margus as a project, and was the reason GG
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but June's goal was to take us to any bowl game in the 5 years of his original contract. He didn't
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby footballdad » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:13 pm

Actually I'm not Mr. Severt, but nice try. I've just heard good things about the kid. Based on our current roster of QB's, and Morris coming to town, I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a lot more reps in the spring vs. most of these guys that just don't fit the system. As far as Colbert, as has been mentioned here, and on the other pay sites, he may have struggled more than any QB on the roster this year. His offer may have been one of those Phillips/June/Houston favors. Wouldn't be surprised if he's one that leaves.
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby blackoutpony » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:15 pm

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Severt is literally a clone of Gilbert. Nearly identical size and similar athletic ability. Morris, being very, very familiar with Gilbert and his skills, should be able to make a quick evaluation of Severt to determine whether or not he warrants reps in his scheme.


Severt had exactly zero offers except SMU out of high school.


Could FBdad be Severt's dad?


Anyone who says the high school Gatorade National Player of the Year is a clone of a guy with one offer either is June Jones or has a vested interest.

Regardless, I think Morris goes and finds his QB before February because I don't think it's Davis or Kearns.
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby Stallion » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:17 pm

Colbert is a Division 1A athlete not a Division 1A QB
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby footballdad » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:17 pm

sbsmith wrote:
footballdad wrote:Margus & Gilbert weren't that good? :roll:



Did you watch all of their games? They had some good moments and lot of of bad ones too, especially against legit competition.


...and Margus is currently playing in the NFL, and Gilbert actually got picked up as a free agent (IN THE NFL!)

but you're going to preach about your evaluation of their talent? :?

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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby blackoutpony » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:20 pm

footballdad wrote:
sbsmith wrote:
footballdad wrote:Margus & Gilbert weren't that good? :roll:



Did you watch all of their games? They had some good moments and lot of of bad ones too, especially against legit competition.


...and Margus is currently playing in the NFL, and Gilbert actually got picked up as a free agent (IN THE NFL!)

but you're going to preach about your evaluation of their talent? :?

Classic


The bengals had to teach Margus a proper 3 point stance when he got to camp. I love Margus, but he disappeared a lot. It's pretty easy to fall in love with a 6'8, 280 pound DE that runs a 4.6 and can bench 225 40+ times.

Why are we even talking about him? He only tried out for football because our track coach told him to.
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby sbsmith » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:23 pm

footballdad wrote:...and Margus is currently playing in the NFL, and Gilbert actually got picked up as a free agent (IN THE NFL!)

but you're going to preach about your evaluation of their talent? :?

Classic



They got picked up by the NFL based on measurables (the NFL loves those). Gilbert is on a practice squad and Margus is still acclimating to the NFL (been largely invisible so far). Let's not act like they were stars or anything because they weren't.
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby footballdad » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:29 pm

Classic blackoutpony, trying to twist my words and criticize me for no apparent reason. Read exactly what I said idiot. A clone only because of his "nearly identical size and similar athletic ability." Not once did I say similar in talent, stars, offers, awards, or any other such thing.

The other very obvious connection here is that Morris coached Gilbert. I have no bias one way or the other toward Severt other than what I've heard, which is all good. Just trying to give my 'opinion' of the QB competition. We'll find out in the spring.
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby Digetydog » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:30 pm

footballdad wrote:
sbsmith wrote:
footballdad wrote:Margus & Gilbert weren't that good? :roll:



Did you watch all of their games? They had some good moments and lot of of bad ones too, especially against legit competition.


...and Margus is currently playing in the NFL, and Gilbert actually got picked up as a free agent (IN THE NFL!)

but you're going to preach about your evaluation of their talent? :?

Classic


Once Gilbert got injured, how many games did we win? Zero. How many points per game did we score? Almost Zero.

He clearly sucked.
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby Digetydog » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:33 pm

Stallion wrote:Colbert is a Division 1A athlete not a Division 1A QB


The same guys who said said that Severt looked good in practice suggested as the same thing.
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Re: Roster Analysis - What Morris has to work with

Postby sbsmith » Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:36 pm

Digetydog wrote:Once Gilbert got injured, how many games did we win? Zero. How many points per game did we score? Almost Zero.

He clearly sucked.



So he got hurt and we replaced him with a scrub that played like a scrub, put Gilbert in the HOF ASAP.
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