Selective enforcement at OU

[NewAgeMustange]

I'll be honest when I first heard the news I assumed that it was SMU and not some state school. I'm glad that we missed that news cycle. I told my gf about the Joe Mixon story and she was wasn't shocked that none of the news (that we saw) was playing that story.

Really if you step back and look at the greater picture, yes what they said was stupid and they are suffering from it. BUT, they are 18/19 year old freshman fraternity guys who were probably just recently initiated. I know KSTATE (only big state school with greek friends) pledges fall and initiates first thing in spring. Idiots none the less, but how many stupid things did each of us say when we were 18, if I had to do it over I would not do half the things I did.

Surprised this is going along with the news.

http://totalfratmove.com/gdi-thrown-off ... -probably/

[couch 'em]

If it wasn't said with the purpose of offending how could it matter if someone there is offended? Isn't it substantially the same as protestors on campus arguing for the destruction of israel, or the banning of islam?

[couch 'em]

Or even better comparison- "abortion is murder" which can be considered very offensive. That's directly calling any women who had an abortion a murderer whereas the SAE idiots were ultimately just saying they won't let blacks in their club.

[PonyKai]

It would have taken a much bigger man than Boren to publicly say "this isn't who Sooners are or what we represent, but together we will educate these young men as to what it means to be a Sooner (and a decent human being)."

[SMU 86]

Or even better comparison- "abortion is murder" which can be considered very offensive. That's directly calling any women who had an abortion a murderer whereas the SAE idiots were ultimately just saying they won't let blacks in their club.

I hear what you are saying couch but they did not just use the term blacks they called them a racist slur that has meant hate as opposed to a prejudice plus saying that they did not caring if they were lynched or not was even more uncalled for.

[NewAgeMustange]

BUT I thought .. . . . .

Boren said. “The University is an educational institution, which always sets high standards that we hope will be upheld by our students. We hope that our students will all learn from those standards, but at the same time, we believe in second chances so that our students can learn and grow from life’s experiences.

I'm sorry, but I really don't think they had Hate in their hearts, stupidity yes, hate no. If everyone wants that word to go away, then everyone needs to stop using it. How many people do you hear use a certain G word ?

[SMU 86]

It would have taken a much bigger man than Boren to publicly say "this isn't who Sooners are or what we represent, but together we will educate these young men as to what it means to be a Sooner (and a decent human being)."

Boren did what he thought was best. I have no problem with the decision. Do you think sending them to sensitivity classes would change their attitude?

[East Coast Mustang]

Boren is a coward. Plain and simple. Broke the law to satisfy the PC junta

[SMU 86]

I don't think there will be any lawsuits by the SAE's or the 2 young men. In fact, the SAE's are investigating other reports of this happening.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn ... incidents/

[NewAgeMustange]

oh I'm sure that they are praying for it to blow over. They may get their wish with Ferguson back on the radar.

[Rebel10]

Boren is a coward. Plain and simple. Broke the law to satisfy the PC junta

Since both the young men are locally from wealthy families maybe they will enroll at SMU. Looking at some of the comments made it sounds like they would get a lot of sympathy and support at SMU.

[GoMustAAngs2007]

Boren is a coward. Plain and simple. Broke the law to satisfy the PC junta

Since both the young men are locally from wealthy families maybe they will enroll at SMU. Looking at some of the comments made it sounds like they would get a lot of sympathy and support at SMU.

I hope SMU admissions wouldn't be that stupid. We already get enough negative publicity.

[PonyKai]

It would have taken a much bigger man than Boren to publicly say "this isn't who Sooners are or what we represent, but together we will educate these young men as to what it means to be a Sooner (and a decent human being)."

Boren did what he thought was best. I have no problem with the decision. Do you think sending them to sensitivity classes would change their attitude?

Boren, in a snap judgment, violated multiple constitutional protections and the law. And yes, embracing and educating someone about how vile and wrong their attitude and actions are is a heckuva lot more likely to produce a positive outcome than simply booting them out and saying "they're degenerates, not our problem." You can always kick them to the curb later - after they've had due process.

Ultimately, I'm not that concerned about these kids. They're turds, and deserve what they get. They get to bear this cross for the rest of their lives. But the law - often - isn't about getting off the hook the guy sitting before you who is guiltier than sin. It's about making sure the government knows damn well what it can and can't do, and how it can and can't do something.

[Rebel10]

Would those that are outraged at what Boren did be supportive of them enrolling at SMU? It could happen.

[Grant Carter]

Would those that are outraged at what Boren did be supportive of them enrolling at SMU? It could happen.

I have a more relevant question for you. Do you understand that people can think the people and their actions are horrible and still question whether OU violated their 1st amendment rights at the same time? It has been explained on this thread many times but you do not seem to get it for some reason.