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Re: Willis quit

Postby SoCal_Pony » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:45 pm

orguy wrote:Up to this point BLM has been a debacle.


He was 30th in the nation in total passing yards last year with a 124.4 QB rating....that is hardly a debacle.

Our defense was next to last in yards allowed...480 yards per game....THAT is a debacle.
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Re: Willis quit

Postby PonySnob » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:01 pm

SoCal_Pony wrote:
orguy wrote:Up to this point BLM has been a debacle.


He was 30th in the nation in total passing yards last year with a 124.4 QB rating....that is hardly a debacle.

Our defense was next to last in yards allowed...480 yards per game....THAT is a debacle.


The amount of interceptions BLM threw last year was a debacle....................
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Re: Willis quit

Postby OC Mustang » Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:14 pm

I'm disappointed that JWill has decided to hang it up, and I hope he changes his mind. He's had a rough go, on and off of the field. Good luck to him. I like his moxie.
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Re: Willis quit

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Re: Willis quit

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Re: Willis quit

Postby gostangs » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:29 pm

Willis is an excellent run first qb that found himself in a "don't even think about running" offense. Bo was not a debacle - only a football mental midget would claim that. Our defense was abismal. Bo's reads and system knowledge got better as the season went on and in fact there is absolutely no doubt that he is better suited for this offense.

That said - I always liked Willis and think we need more of his competitive spirit and his fight (not just with....well never mind...) . Wish him the best and dont blame him for feeling like there was no future here. He probably was the 6th or 7th receiver on this team so it was not really going to work for him here.
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Re: Willis quit

Postby westexSMU » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:02 am

We are all sorry about JWill's situation, but the fact is he was a good WR before his injury in the spring and probably would have started this year without his leg injury. Like Coach Jones said, he has lost a step from his injury and is just not ready now speed wise. However, another option might be for him to concentrate on his rehab. this year and increase his speed again. Then hopefully get a medical redshirt and come back for a better shot next year...
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Re: Willis quit

Postby mrydel » Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:43 am

Losing a step of speed is not a basis for medical hardship. He is medically cleared to play, so that is not an option.
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Re: Willis quit

Postby Mustangsabu » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:30 am

Very sad news, but I wish him the best.
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Re: Willis quit

Postby friarwolf » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:01 am

I hope he reconsiders and stays with the team this year. When he enters the business world, his story of sticking it out, changing positions, overcoming a serious injury, and staying positive throughout will play very well in interviews - and rightfully so. Quitting when told he would not start will not play so well.
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Re: Willis quit

Postby Hoop Fan » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:24 am

SoCal, i can count the times i have disagreed with you over the years on one hand. Having said that, how does being 30th in the nation in passing yards mean a damn thing when you have no running game, and often don't even attempt to run the ball?

To EastStang, equating willis' 1-10 record with BLMs is a weak argument on two levels. Willis led the team to 6-6 the year before, so there is evidence that he can win a few games. the other thing is maybe you had the luxury of being a distant fan and not watching many games firsthand last year. Talk about beyond painful, and we know pain.
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Re: Willis quit

Postby Hoop Fan » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:34 am

gostangs wrote:Willis is an excellent run first qb that found himself in a "don't even think about running" offense. Bo was not a debacle - only a football mental midget would claim that. Our defense was abismal. Bo's reads and system knowledge got better as the season went on and in fact there is absolutely no doubt that he is better suited for this offense.

That said - I always liked Willis and think we need more of his competitive spirit and his fight (not just with....well never mind...) . Wish him the best and dont blame him for feeling like there was no future here. He probably was the 6th or 7th receiver on this team so it was not really going to work for him here.


I am not talking about BLMs throwing ability or mechanics or anything like that. How were his leadership skills last year? Was he ready to lead a D-1 team? Hell no and it was obvious from any angle. So, youre a mental giant, you tell me whats more important to a D-1 football team: having legit leadership in the huddle, or having a guy who will never leave the precious pocket? Give me a break. Anybody can learn habits. Justin Willis could have been trained to ignore his good instincts and stay in the pocket longer, but the truth is JJ made up his mind before fall drills even started last year.
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Re: Willis quit

Postby Billy Joe » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:39 am

JJ saw enough film on Willis and knew that he was not the best fit in this offense. The qb has to be able to make certain throws and do so with accuracy to be successful. JJ is the coach and has a proven winning track records. End of story. Do you fools want Bennett back? I did not think so. It is time to move on from this ridiculous argument. Next topic.
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Re: Willis quit

Postby Hoop Fan » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:48 am

Billy Joe wrote:JJ saw enough film on Willis and knew that he was not the best fit in this offense. The qb has to be able to make certain throws and do so with accuracy to be successful. JJ is the coach and has a proven winning track records. End of story. Do you fools want Bennett back? I did not think so. It is time to move on from this ridiculous argument. Next topic.


thats funny, willis could make enough certain throws for Orsini to hype him as an all american candidate and centerpiece of a marketing campaign. Willis was plenty accurate with the ball. yes, he forced a few things from time to time trying to make something happen under duress as a young qb, but dont confuse that with an inherent lack of accuracy. if you think JJs offense or anybody elses is some magic formula with different types of throws, i got news for ya, the chuck and duck offense is nothing magical.
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Re: Willis quit

Postby Stallion » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:49 am

I really don't think there is much doubt that Jones threw a freshman QB out there who was totally unprepared or ready to start at the Division 1A Level. He was totally lost out there for the first half of the season. I have little doubt that Justin Willis would have performed at a much higher level. That was my argument and I think it proved correct. That being said I think you wipe the slate clean and chalk it up to inexperience. Mitchell should not be judged totally based upon his freshman year because he shouldn't have been playing in the first place. I tried to make that distinction all last season. There are two different issues:

1. should Mitchell have been thrown in as a freshman when you had an experienced, quality QB and
2. Is Mitchell a quality QB prospect.
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