No Big 12 expansion

[Pony Boss]

I would keep TCU and Baylor out if they had to come into the AAC after the Little 8 are left behind. Let them crawl their way into the Mwc or CUSA/Sunbelt

You clearly don't know what you are talking about. The Big XII would be the conference inviting the AAC teams. The stronger conference always poaches. The Big XII would have better TV deals, bowl tie-ins, NCAA tournament credits, etc. Don't be stupid, if anything people at Baylor and TCU with your mentality will try to keep SMU and Houston out.

You mean the little 6-8 after Texoma are gone? Nah, all that Big 12 stuff you mention would be gone immediately just like all the Big East Stuff when we joined.

[CalallenStang]

http://www.uhcougars.com/genrel/UH_presentation.html

In the brochure at that link, their maps of Power 5 schools in the Southeast has Ole Miss and Miss State in each other's places. Not very good geographic knowledge for a "Tier One" university (terminology not used by college presidents, except in Texas...the rest of the country says "Very High Research Activity" for this designation). They also have a Princeton Review ranking displayed...this source is particularly disregarded as authoritative in any way by university presidents. It looks like UH thought their audience was high school seniors.

I do not know what SMU presented but I hope it was better tailored to the audience.

[gostangs]

If you are Houston you only have a few things to hang your hat on, academically. Tier 1 is a total crock - and everyone knows it, but it is something to put down. If you want to know where a university ranks you look at the quality of the students being attracted to the school. Its just that simple. UH would never want to be ranked on that metric.

All of this is moot now of course. We are all lovingly stuck with each other - we need to make our conference the clear 6th and get our dough up - and then maybe we can be the picker when the bolting occurs rather than the picked.

[TidePony]

Stop being logical, this is Pony Fans!!!

[alyssa]

Knew it would be this way. Kill 'em off by not scheduling them anymore.

[Topper]

Expansion talk dragged on just long enough for all to forget about Baylor's transgressions. Mission accomplished. Now back to the status quo.


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Exactly what a sports correspondent said on NPR the other morning. He said that the Big 12 commissioner blurted out that they were looking into expansion as a diversion while taking questions from reporters which focused, uncomfortably, on Baylor. The reporter said that the entire process was a charade as there was never support for this among members. Reporter went on to speculate that Big 12 is a house of cards that will collapse when UT and OU opt out in a few years.

[SoCal_Pony]

I think it is semi humerus (just pulling your leg) that anyone besides delusional coogfan would think uh is a top 10 job. I also think that ut would go to great lengths to sabotage anything or anyone who might be even a remote threat to their desires. Come on.

Absolutely true.

Coog High has a unique business model. Superb location + low academics = acceptance of some student 'athletes' that Top Tier schools such as SMU, A&M and UT have to pass on.

Bill Yeoman was able to parlay this advantage to accomplish something Baylor, TCU, Arkansas, Texas Tech, Rice and dear old SMU were unable to do in some 450 years of combined SWC membership and A&M was only able to accomplish after some 70 years of SWC membership, 4 Cotton Bowl appearances in 9 years. Mind you Coog High was admitted into the SWC 1970's and began this amazing run in the same decade.

I doubt that is lost on UT or OU.

[Topper]

I think it is semi humerus (just pulling your leg) that anyone besides delusional coogfan would think uh is a top 10 job. I also think that ut would go to great lengths to sabotage anything or anyone who might be even a remote threat to their desires. Come on.

Absolutely true.

Coog High has a unique business model. Superb location + low academics = acceptance of some student 'athletes' that Top Tier schools such as SMU, A&M and UT have to pass on.

Bill Yeoman was able to parlay this advantage to accomplish something Baylor, TCU, Arkansas, Texas Tech, Rice and dear old SMU were unable to do in some 450 years of combined SWC membership and A&M was only able to accomplish after some 70 years of SWC membership, 4 Cotton Bowl appearances in 9 years. Mind you Coog High was admitted into the SWC 1970's and began this amazing run in the same decade.

I doubt that is lost on UT or OU.

U of H also started recruiting African-American players almost a decade before UT and A&M. Exploited an untapped reservoir of talent before Jerry Levias.

[mrydel]

I still believe Strong will be at Texas next year but a report was announced on a local sports talk radio show in Arkansas that LSU has said they want Strong if he is available. I do not know the source and I do not believe it but it was said.

Probably put out by a Texas supporter wanting UT to make Strong available.

[Charleston Pony]

I still believe Strong will be at Texas next year but a report was announced on a local sports talk radio show in Arkansas that LSU has said they want Strong if he is available. I do not know the source and I do not believe it but it was said.

Probably put out by a Texas supporter wanting UT to make Strong available.

Strong was a highly regarded DC at S. Carolina & Florida before taking the Louisville job so I think he's well thought of in SEC territory.

[Stallion]

UH has achieved nationally competitive success under 7 different coaches and in just about every decade since the 1960s--despite horrible facilities.

Bill Yeoman
Jack Pardee
John Jenkins
Art Briles
Kevin Sumlin
Tom Herman

The UH program has been consistently inconsistent over 5 decades

[Digetydog]

UH has achieved nationally competitive success under 7 different coaches and in just about every decade since the 1960s--despite horrible facilities.

Bill Yeoman
Jack Pardee
John Jenkins
Art Briles
Kevin Sumlin
Tom Herman

The UH program has been consistently inconsistent over 5 decades

With the exception of the post-DP Ownby years, UH had the worst CFB stadium options in Texas even if you include a lot of the lower division schools.

[DiamondM75]

We need to end all the Big12 expansion talks and solidify our position.

The AAC should invite OU, OSU and UT to join.

These teams will need a conference once the Big12 folds, they need to be proactive.

[Top Twenty]

I was a student member on the Faculty Athletic Committee in 1971-72. We were informed during that year that the Southwest Conference was in the process of adding the University of Houston. The trick, as it was explained to us, was that Houston would not be eligible to compete on the field for four years...time to allow them "to improve their academics."

[AusTxPony]

Think the SEC would ever go for that package. They'd get half the state (two large cable cities) and one excellent academic school to go with Vandy plus good bball. They might. Or I guess they could wait for the Big 12 to fall apart and pick whomever they want.