Meanwhile in Hogland

[mrydel]

And raked in more money than SMU has probably made in its history, which in turn allows them to excel in other sports such as track (several national championships), baseball (should have won the NC last year and usually is contending, and basketball which will be back most likely with Musselman. They do well in several of the other minor sports also.

Not every dog can be best in show but they might be able to win certain categories. You can certainly teach it to sit and shake hands.

I am not a rabid Arkansas fan but it does humor me to think that those that keep ridiculing them for their “terrible” SEC record would not in a minute trade a winning AAC SMU for a mid/lower level SEC SMU.

[Charleston Pony]

I agree Arkansas made the right call moving to the SEC where I think they are more compatible with their Conference mates. They've had decent success, made a ton of money and have only Vanderbilt as a small private school to compete against. I think it's a better fit for them than the SWC but yes, the competition is much tougher than it was for them "back in the day".

Let's face it; the SWC was doomed once television took over college athletics and it just wasn't good business for the larger public schools to continue to "carry" their small, private school conference mates. Like it or not, that is our reality. If SMU wanted to be Dallas' school and have a reputation at the level of Notre Dame or Southern Cal, our administration would have taken an entirely different approach to dealing with the aftermath of the death penalty.

[Insane_Pony_Posse]

"Morris needs to be dismissed. Quickly, quietly and permanently"

https://arktimes.com/entertainment/pear ... had-morris

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/arkan ... orris-era/

[leopold]

"Sherwood Blount Prepatory"

F*ck him.

[SoCal_Pony]

And raked in more money than SMU has probably made in its history, which in turn allows them to excel in other sports such as track (several national championships), baseball (should have won the NC last year and usually is contending, and basketball which will be back most likely with Musselman. They do well in several of the other minor sports also.

Not every dog can be best in show but they might be able to win certain categories. You can certainly teach it to sit and shake hands.

I am not a rabid Arkansas fan but it does humor me to think that those that keep ridiculing them for their “terrible” SEC record would not in a minute trade a winning AAC SMU for a mid/lower level SEC SMU.

Since I suspect this is post is directed at me, I will respond.

Bringing SMU into this argument is laughable, this is about Arkansas and their move to the SEC.

I actually thought it was the right decision at the time , and even more so once the SWC completely imploded. Is there anyone on this board who thinks otherwise???, I dunno. Haven’t read all this thread but the alternate was eventually the B12 South so of course SEC is better, much better. Shows sound foresight by Broyles, something to be admired.

Having said that, it’s also a fact that in the ~30 years preceding their bolt, Arkansas played in 13 significant New Years’ Day Bowl games and during their 30 years in the SEC, they have played in only 1. That’s not ridicule (unless you are thin-skinned), that’s simply the facts. It’s great they’ve done well in these other non-revenue sports, I suspect the typical Arky fan would trade all that for more FB success.

[DanFreibergerForHeisman]

Having said that, it’s also a fact that in the ~30 years preceding their bolt, Arkansas played in 13 significant New Years’ Day Bowl games and during their 30 years in the SEC, they have played in only 1. That’s not ridicule (unless you are thin-skinned), that’s simply the facts. It’s great they’ve done well in these other non-revenue sports, I suspect the typical Arky fan would trade all that for more FB success.

This is a valid point, and the same will be true for TCU in the Big XII versus the MWC.

But anyone who thinks Arkansas was wrong for going to the SEC is just crazy.

Nebraska, Missouri, and Texas A&P have shown the Big XII would not have been a good place for a school like Arkansas as well.

[Digetydog]

And raked in more money than SMU has probably made in its history, which in turn allows them to excel in other sports such as track (several national championships), baseball (should have won the NC last year and usually is contending, and basketball which will be back most likely with Musselman. They do well in several of the other minor sports also.

Not every dog can be best in show but they might be able to win certain categories. You can certainly teach it to sit and shake hands.

I am not a rabid Arkansas fan but it does humor me to think that those that keep ridiculing them for their “terrible” SEC record would not in a minute trade a winning AAC SMU for a mid/lower level SEC SMU.

I don’t hate Arkansas. Indeed, I loved when we had regular BB and FB games against them b/c their fans travel and are fun.

I think their record in the SEC is a function of being a midsized fish in the SEC scheme of things. Watching the Hawgs try to climb to the top has been a lot like watching sisyphus try to push the rock up the hill.

[mrydel]

And raked in more money than SMU has probably made in its history, which in turn allows them to excel in other sports such as track (several national championships), baseball (should have won the NC last year and usually is contending, and basketball which will be back most likely with Musselman. They do well in several of the other minor sports also.

Not every dog can be best in show but they might be able to win certain categories. You can certainly teach it to sit and shake hands.

I am not a rabid Arkansas fan but it does humor me to think that those that keep ridiculing them for their “terrible” SEC record would not in a minute trade a winning AAC SMU for a mid/lower level SEC SMU.

Since I suspect this is post is directed at me, I will respond.

Bringing SMU into this argument is laughable, this is about Arkansas and their move to the SEC.

I actually thought it was the right decision at the time , and even more so once the SWC completely imploded. Is there anyone on this board who thinks otherwise???, I dunno. Haven’t read all this thread but the alternate was eventually the B12 South so of course SEC is better, much better. Shows sound foresight by Broyles, something to be admired.

Having said that, it’s also a fact that in the ~30 years preceding their bolt, Arkansas played in 13 significant New Years’ Day Bowl games and during their 30 years in the SEC, they have played in only 1. That’s not ridicule (unless you are thin-skinned), that’s simply the facts. It’s great they’ve done well in these other non-revenue sports, I suspect the typical Arky fan would trade all that for more FB success.

But you have bring SMU into the argument because it is us at SMU that are doing the arguing (in a friendly way I hope). What was Arkansas to do? They wanted to be away from UT, and out of the SWC. The obvious move was SEC and as you know it has paid off dearly from a monetary standpoint. Sure they went to big bowls in the past, but the landscape of college football has changed dramatically and Arkansas happens to find themselves as, on average, the 3rd or 4th team in the SEC West that boasts two of the top programs in the country over the past several years. It’s a tough place to be. But I can assure you, since I hear it daily, there is no place else any Arkansas fan wants to be. There is never any talk of getting out of the SEC, not should there be.

Would the fans like to play in bigger bowls? Sure. Right now they just dream of becoming bowl eligible sometime in the next few years period. But these things run in cycles. It was not too long ago that Alabama was down, and LSU was down. But they recovered more quickly than Arkansas has been able.

Saban will die, Orgeron may be deported for speaking an unknown language, who knows? But things will shift as they always do. Get the right guy at the right time and it could (please note I said could) work out for Arkansas football in the future.

We watched Washington State go from a team SMU could beat to a ranked team in a short period with Leach. It happens everywhere. The SEC is just a tough place to try and do it.

Arkansas has performed better than the Mississippi schools since in the SEC (as we always say here, “thank God for Mississippi”), and better records overall than South Carolina, Vanderbilt, and Kentucky.

I am one of the few that think Morris will be successful at Arkansas. Not sure what will define that success but I do think he will. And I am not a Chad supporter. I just see what he is doing and I think it is a good plan whenever he gets his players in place.

Since I have now written my novel, I respectfully bow out of this conversation because anything else I would say would just be repetitive.

[leopold]

What was Arkansas to do?

^^^^^^^^^

People act like Arkansas had a lot of options. They didn't. It was either stay with what was collectively known to be a dying conference or move on and the SEC was by far the best option. Hell, they weren't even a first choice by that conference - every old school SEC fan I know insist some combination of Miami, TAMU, or FSU were approached first. Only when those schools passed did they approach Arky and USCe. The Big XII was even a gleam in Deloss Dodds eye at the time.

They made the right decision. Only wish we could have the same problems.

[Nacho]

Really don't think Chad is the answer. Anyone who stayed with Van Malone that long has no ability to judge talent.

[sadderbudweiser]

And raked in more money than SMU has probably made in its history, which in turn allows them to excel in other sports such as track (several national championships), baseball (should have won the NC last year and usually is contending, and basketball which will be back most likely with Musselman. They do well in several of the other minor sports also.

Not every dog can be best in show but they might be able to win certain categories. You can certainly teach it to sit and shake hands.

I am not a rabid Arkansas fan but it does humor me to think that those that keep ridiculing them for their “terrible” SEC record would not in a minute trade a winning AAC SMU for a mid/lower level SEC SMU.

Yep. They are actually very good at anything that has nothing to do with HCCM.

[sadderbudweiser]

"Morris needs to be dismissed. Quickly, quietly and permanently"

https://arktimes.com/entertainment/pear ... had-morris

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/arkan ... orris-era/

LOL....


HANGING Chad.

[PonyTime]

If you haven't read this, it's worth a read...Rossley and Spike Dykes perspective:

http://interactives.dallasnews.com/2015/swc-anniversary/

“I hated to see the Southwest Conference end,” says Rossley, SMU’s quarterbacks coach in 1989 and head coach from 1991 through 1996. “And I really couldn’t help but think that the death penalty at SMU was kind of the beginning of the death penalty of the Southwest Conference.”

[PonySnob]

It’s hard to believe that Stallion can remain so quiet during all of this. He looked pissed when I saw him in his seat at the Texas State game up near the top rows in 203.

[Pony81]

Regardless of how you feel about CM or Arkansas football.... the Arktimes article is hilarious. The writer has serious comedic talent.