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bennett is going

Posted:
Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:56 pm
by sam
I will post this for all the bennett supporters Bus,Bermeister,jt stang,La Mustang,Bo17 and PK and East Stang. Ya'lls blind devotion to bennett is sad. I have posted on here since the very first Navy game that bennett was a horrible coach, he cannot manage a game, is abusive to players,cannot manage coaches and the list goes on and on. I have said that he needs to be fired. If you were Turner and this is your business you would cut your losses
Ya'll on the other hand continue to support him,are blind to the fact that he has no coaching skills and swell with pride because he can recognize you in a crowd.
I know ya'll will respond with the usual crap about how he deserves one more year,and Turner wouldn't do it yada,yada,yada.
But save your breath because I'm telling you bennett is going. I reported this on 10-21 (a veiled attempt) and got the same response.
Oh I know you are going to demand a source like ya'll did when I reported what bennett was doing with phillips,he plays on saturday and practices on monday and tuesday he gets a med---- you want a source not just the information
You can support bennett all you want but you will look the fool in two more weeks
Just something to think about,why do you think bennett has such a Mickey Mouse staff, outside James,Vinclarek and Burns none of these people will coach again they are there because in the coaching community bennett is burned, nobody wants to work with him,he is The Leper.
To coin a term "Help is on the way"

Posted:
Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:08 pm
by SoCal_Pony
Sam,
Since Copeland is responsible for this hiring, which you describe as ‘terrible’ after his VERY FIRST GAME against Navy, does that mean big Jim won’t be allowed to make the next selection?

Posted:
Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:28 pm
by sam
He was only partly in the loop. His job is on the line, it rests with Tubbs success.
And listen, do you not think that bennett has been terrible since his first game?

Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:03 am
by SoCal_Pony
Sam, I read this board daily. I think Bo17 is the only poster who has stated that Bennett is a good coach (he actually used the word great). Nobody else that I can recall is happy with Bennett’s game-day coaching. Many, myself included, think all our revenue coaches are set up for failure from the get-go. Our abysmal record in fb and our inability to have ever competed for a lousy WAC title in bb prove this out.
So if Bennett goes, do you think the administration will accept some responsibility and loosen up restrictions a bit more or does our administration blame Bennett 100% for our failures?

Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:06 am
by KnuckleStang
That all sounds really nice and ominous, but if you'd give a source, it would help your credibility a lot.
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Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:17 am
by SoCal_Pony
KnuckleStang wrote:That all sounds really nice and ominous, but if you'd give a source, it would help your credibility a lot.
True, but he is a heck of a lot more credible than most on this board

Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:48 am
by sam
So Cal I will say this, bennett was not mandated to win a title, he was here to put a competitive team on the field. This in and of itself would lend some credit to the measures that needed to take place for SMU to again field a team that could win a championship. But to bad for SMU,he could not coach. He coached and recruited in the lest restrictive environment than any coach we have had seen 1989 and produced less.
And to Kstang, I don't care want you think,you can believe it or not.
There were conditions in which he could stay,I don't think he made them.

Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:25 am
by dandyfan
wow, sam is all of a suddenl not so...veiled. what was the straw to set the wheels in motion sam?.....or straws. whose feathers suddenly got ruffled?

Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:42 am
by RedRiverPony
I'll also use the word "great." Anyone who thinks he doesn't know football is delusional. Give him a team full of guys like Terence Newman and Mark Simoneau and Michael Bishop and suddenly he'll be lauded for a remarkable turnaround. There are some talented players here, and nobody wants to hear about how they're young, inexperienced, etc. But they are. And they're too few in number. More are on the way.
Go SMU! Beat Tulsa!
(I need a win this weekend - I work with a bunch of TU grads...)

Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:07 am
by PerunaPunch
Sorry Sam,
In addition to Bo17 (who if you know SMU football, you know that BO KNOWS a good coach when he sees one), a few other people who know nothing about football and who have called Bennett good or great are Dat Nguyen, Terrence Newman and (recently in a PonyFans.com interview) Donald Mitchell.
If you think Bennett is a NCAA coaching leper, well, that just goes to show how out of touch you are. Today is November 4. Two weeks from today will be 11/18. So I'll make a bet with you smart guy. I'll be out of town until 11/28. If I look the fool when I get back in the country, then I'll quit PonyFans. If Bennett is still around, you quit the board.
So now is time to pony up or shut up. Agreed?
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Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:13 am
by Diehard Pony
SoCal_Pony wrote:Sam,
Since Copeland is responsible for this hiring, which you describe as ‘terrible’ after his VERY FIRST GAME against Navy, does that mean big Jim won’t be allowed to make the next selection?
I have been told that Dr. Turner will be very involved in the next selection (whenever that occurs), unlike the process that produced Bennett. Copleland had a committee, but they were essentially strawmen.

Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:32 pm
by OldPony
Are you telling me that Turner wasn't involved last time? That would appear to be total BS from observation with no inside sources. We had to buy out Cavan and come up with a large guaranteed contract for Bennett. If Turner wasn't involved, he should be fired. Copeland has had his chances. He fired Rossley and hired Cavan and Bennett and Dement. If Bennett is fired, Copeland should be too. Tubbs, even if great, shouldn't save Bennett. The Dallas area HS coaches forced his hand and he had no choice. He gets no credit nor blame for Tubbs.

Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:17 pm
by anurep
PerunaPunch, Bennett maybe a get defensive coordinator and a good coach as some people in the football world have stated. However, he is a terrible HEAD COACH, somewhat analogous to Dave Campo of the Cowboys and Norv Turner. Just because you're successful at one level doesn't need you will be at the next.

Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:49 pm
by PerunaPunch
anurep,
That may prove to be the case. Thanks for making a thoughtful and considered counterpoint.
PPunch

Posted:
Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:41 pm
by EastStang
I can't believe that Lamar Hunt, the man who got the NFL to blink, or Gerald Ford who's made more money than any of us, or the head of the Mustang Club, the President of the University, or the representative of the faculty senate or a player from the football team are stawman for Jim Copeland. That is patently ridiculous.