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Future of Texas/OU

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:24 pm
by Mike Damone
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... be5ef.html

Don't give me any of the "we don't care, its not SMU" crap. This would be a huge loss for the city of Dallas. Really is sad that Dallas can't/won't do anything about it. Dallas is losing all its football tradition over the period of a decade or two.

Dallas has/had the ability to have the Rangers, Cowboys, Texas-OU, Cotton Bowl become a BCS game, national championships, Super Bowls, Final Fours. They drop the ball on everyhting. I know not all of it is the city's fault, but when all this stuff is gone and there's nothing here except the Mavs, you can't convince me the city will better off.

"we coulda been a contender"

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:41 pm
by Bergermeister
Mike: I think you meant to post on dallascitycouncil.com. This is an SMU message board. Nice rant, though.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:45 pm
by EastStang
yawn.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:48 pm
by Hoop Fan
I know everyone doesnt agree with this, but losing the Cowboys to Arlington was a huge blown opportunity for Dallas. Final Fours and Super Bowls could have been in downtown Dallas, and now we are counting on the Trinity River Project at best. Don't get me wrong, it sounds nice, but I don't see how that form of a clean up project is any more beneficial than a stadium.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:55 pm
by Stallion
as a 6th geberation Dallasite I find it hard to believe that Laura Miller dropped the ball on an opportunity to preserve Fair Park and its surroundings, provide funding to the Southern sector of the County which probably has a justified [deleted], rebuild the Cotton Bowl into a Grand-Daddy BCS bowl, and preserve the greatest unique rivalry in College Football-Texas-OU. Oh yeah and then you get to return America's Team to Dallas with the resulting benefits. All of the forging Dallas assets will continue to wither and erode and each played a huge role in the tradition and history of the City.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:55 pm
by abezontar
I haven't read this article, but it is important to keep in mind that the city of Dallas was not offered the same deal as Arlington. As I recall Dallas was to foot 450 of the 650 million, wereas Arlington I believe only has to put up 325. Plus Jerry was very adament that it be on this November's ballot because he was afraid that it would fail otherwise. While I don't like seeing it go to Arlington, I also don't like being bullied into something, and I think that is what would have happened if the city had catered to Jerry's whims. Plus I'm still waiting for the development around the AAC, and the Ballpark.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:39 pm
by Mike Damone
abezontar wrote:Plus I'm still waiting for the development around the AAC, and the Ballpark.


Actually, you should start to see major devopment of, I believe, six buildings ranging from office to apartment to hotel around the AAC within the next few months. This will begin with 'W' Hotel that will start construction soon.

As for the Ballpark, got me. Talk to Arlington.

And why would Arlington get a better deal. Does anyone think that Dallas didn't even begin to get into negotiations.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 6:30 pm
by Hoop Fan
Mike Damone wrote: Does anyone think that Dallas didn't even begin to get into negotiations.


Thats exactly what happened. The powers that be in Dallas went through some motions for PR purposes, but never had any real intention or desire to make a deal happen. Its either that, or pure disfunctionality and incompetence. I choose to believe our leaders just didn't ever want the deal. You cant tell me the Cowboys wanted to be in Arlington more than Dallas. Arlington won't regret its investment one bit. We'll see what Dallas does to invigorate downtown and near South Dallas, but I'm not holding my breath.