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Will SMU pay the Price?

Posted:
Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:56 am
by Sam I Am
No, SMU would not have paid to hire coach Price like UTEP like did. Now we will get to pay the price for not having a big name coach at our school when we play the Miners. There is hardly more dramatic proof of what a good coach can do at a school that has never been ranked, and has a terrible losing record thru the years than what has been done in El Paso. UTEP took a chance and got a bargain. The final irony might be that Price will stay a while in gratitude for getting a second chance in life. You would think that a church school would be inclined to offer redemption for someone who has erred and wants to make amends. Any takers out there?

Posted:
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:07 am
by ponyboy
Stop the ridiculous fire the coach crap. Next subject.
Re: Will SMU pay the Price?

Posted:
Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:04 am
by Pony_Fan
Sam I Am wrote:No, SMU would not have paid to hire coach Price like UTEP like did. Now we will get to pay the price for not having a big name coach at our school when we play the Miners. There is hardly more dramatic proof of what a good coach can do at a school that has never been ranked, and has a terrible losing record thru the years than what has been done in El Paso. UTEP took a chance and got a bargain. The final irony might be that Price will stay a while in gratitude for getting a second chance in life. You would think that a church school would be inclined to offer redemption for someone who has erred and wants to make amends. Any takers out there?
They also have the luxury to easily add Juco's to fill positions.

Posted:
Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:13 am
by DiamondM75
Sam
What a ridiculous statement. As soon as Price gets an offer from a major school, he will jump ship and bail. He might stay at UTEP two years just to prove he can coach and that he has straightened out his life, but believe me, as soon as a bigger program comes knocking, he will be gone.
I would rather do what SMU did, find a coach that will make a committment to the school and the program. Lets face it folks, SMU is a stepping stone. If you can come here and build a program, the future is good for you and your talents. If you fail, well, you might be an assistant somewhere.
UTEP has a quick fix and it will not last. Just like Francione at TCU. How many times do you have to see this to understand that for these coaches, this is their livelyhood, their job, their business, their career. I don't blame them.
When I get ask to be president of General Motors, I am out of here.

Posted:
Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:41 am
by Dutch
it doesn't hurt that Price can hide all his shortcomings in Juarez!
Let SMU be a stepping stone too

Posted:
Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:47 pm
by Sam I Am
I wouldn't mind having a winning coach come to SMU on the way up to a name BCS school. If we ever do produce a winning team, that coach will surely be in demand just like happened to TCU or maybe will happen to UTEP. I'll take a few short term gains at this point in hopes of making SMU an attractive place for other good coaches to consider.
Re: Will SMU pay the Price?

Posted:
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:19 pm
by Diehard Pony
Pony_Fan wrote:They also have the luxury to easily add Juco's to fill positions.
They have had that luxury forever and have still been consistent losers until Price arrived.
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Posted:
Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:23 pm
by Diehard Pony
ponyboy wrote:Stop the ridiculous fire the coach crap. Next subject.
There's nothing ridiculous about considering the possibility of replacing a coach who has posted a 5 -27 record in his career, and 2 - 19 over the last two years. This after he promised championships at the time he was hired.

Posted:
Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:15 am
by ponyboy
It is ridiculous if the losing has nothing to do with the coach, DP. We keep running off coaches and ignoring the true source of our problems. I believe in hindsight that Cavan had us well on our way back up before the Malin thing happened and killed recruiting. If Bennett can maintain even a semblance of his recent recruiting momentum, we will get better and better and *gasp!* reverse this cycle.

Posted:
Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:34 am
by huntnfish
Actually, Rossley had us on our way in 1996 until Copeland fired him. Cavan wins with Rossley's players next year and then it has been downhill ever since. I agree, go to the top of the food chain and make changes, don't start with the coaches.
Re: Will SMU pay the Price?

Posted:
Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:09 am
by GoRedGoBlue
Sam I Am wrote:No, SMU would not have paid to hire coach Price like UTEP like did. Now we will get to pay the price for not having a big name coach at our school when we play the Miners. There is hardly more dramatic proof of what a good coach can do at a school that has never been ranked, and has a terrible losing record thru the years than what has been done in El Paso. UTEP took a chance and got a bargain. The final irony might be that Price will stay a while in gratitude for getting a second chance in life. You would think that a church school would be inclined to offer redemption for someone who has erred and wants to make amends. Any takers out there?
Paid the price for Mike Price? He is only getting 225k a year or so. UTEP cannot keep good assistants because of their pay structure out there...that's why they cannot sustain any momentum even when they have a good year or two.
Price may stay, and may help change that policy...but it is a rediculous argument that SMU wouldn't PAY for a 'Price' ...
The real issue over Price was his, ahem, indulgences...and that's not exactly what he needed: A Target Rich environment (read: Dallas' SOB's rank among the best in the USA).
Price was simply unacceptable in a major media market... good for him and UTEP, he is out there without controversy (the press) following him around (he wouldn't have had that here in Dallas).
Re: Will SMU pay the Price?

Posted:
Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:13 am
by GoRedGoBlue
Diehard Pony wrote:Pony_Fan wrote:They also have the luxury to easily add Juco's to fill positions.
They have had that luxury forever and have still been consistent losers until Price arrived.
To what Stallion would most certainly agree with, UTEP had some talent (Carson Palmer's little brother is QB), and was poorly coached... CAL was like this 3 years ago. aTm was like this when Fran arrived. Sullivan had some good recruits when Fran took over there.
SMU didn't have that level talent for a good coach to come in and make a huge difference...(not that I don't think that Bennett could have won a few more games with better coaching, I do).
I would love to see what Spurrier or Stoops or Fran could do with UTexas...they'd be unstoppable (they need innovation and fun in their game).